Haha. See? Exactly. They cancelled him. Social media banned him Then at the same time, the media pumped out a load of fake news about him being a human trafficker etc. None of which was true. Now; I’m not saying I agree with his views or that I endorse him. But I am saying what happened to him was wrong and is a prime example of what I’m talking about. There is collusion between legacy media and social media (which was the topic of conversation). He was on a podcast this week talking about it. (Rob Moore - Disruptors podcast if you’re interested)
If I shoot at you and miss, I still shot at you. You’re being extremely pedantic. You still get my point. As for the second insulting bit. lol. Thanks, but I don’t need your pity. I guarantee my life is much better than yours. Not really sure why you feel the need to be insulting when we were just having a chat.
He moved to Romania because, by his own words, it would be easier to evade sexual abuse charges. https://www.thedailybeast.com/polic...asculinity-in-human-trafficking-investigation
Clearly something you've cut and pasted without critical thought so you haven't noticed it's not equivalent at all. (the correct version, not that you care: If I attempt to shoot at you and fail to shoot at you then I haven't shot at you). That lack of a moment to think critically is the core of your problem and shows in every post you make. So a moment ago you baldly claimed "No social media, no bank accounts, no phone apps. Even uber stops working". I know nothing at all about the dregs you mention but I'll give £20 to the charity of your choice if you can give me credible, substantiated evidence of, say, the "Uber stops working" claim. Why am I so confident? Because everything you post reeks of blind credulousness. Find the evidence and name the charity.
Your life is guaranteed better than mine. But I'm the one being insulting because I feel sorry for you and hope you escape from the hell you're in? Cool. I guess I'd best leave it now.
When you have to lower the tone of a debate to insults, it’s an obvious sign that you’ve lost the debate.
A couple alt-right figures have been banned from Uber. Laura Loomer was...because she went on a bigoted rant on Twitter about her Uber driver, and demanded that rideshare companies cease hiring Muslims so she wouldn't have to associate with them. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ber-lyft-after-anti-muslim-tweetstorm-n816911
"Haha. See? Exactly." What nonsense is that? Alex Jones Infowars lies and misinformation Farage and Co alt right bollocks deserves trashing.
A smear campaign? Which article was that? What was false? And yes you are spreading the false posts it's not news'.
Schad, I don't know if you ever noticed but this is an English forum and I have to ask you why you continually peddle 'new's from the USA which most of us don't give a flying **** about. Whatever happens in the jolly old USA can eventually cause ripples over here but to be honest, why is there a need to announce all the silly **** that is happening over there? The nonsense in America doesn't really have anything to do with us and we have our own collection of absolute ****wits. They are known as Conservatives and the only newsworthy item coming out of the USA would be if they nuked Downing Street when the morons were holding a cabinet meeting.
Because this stuff was raised by Osvaldorama earlier to tell us that we couldn't possibly deny coercive behaviour now, plus social media, media etc etc impacts us all. Slightly odd post there, Kaito?
I am not familiar with the names of these influencers or people making comments on either TikTok or Twitter. I don't use either and am not aware of the issues. or why people have been "cancelled." There never really seemed to be an infantile debate regarding matters in the 1980s when I was getting politically aware but "political correctness" did seem to become a creeping issue in the next decade. Although I am by no means a fan, Graham Norton made a point last week about the "Cancel Culture" issue being a reaction to a lack of common decency and a lack of respect. I partly agree but just feel that many arguments have been reduced to the level of playground squabbles. Regardless of which side of any "culture war debate" you are on, the arguments on these platforms don't appear to be particularly robust. For me the argument isn't so much about free speech but about a lack of understanding and respect. The "cancelling" of people seems to be a really immature reaction and you almost feel that it has become a point scoring exercise. The whole thing is pretty ridiculous and these platforms are incapable of producing the thought out arguments that Vin has lauded. I have little real interest in many of these arguments , especially where the people making them are ill-informed or merely attention seekers trying to hop on the band-wagon. I don't think it helps having politcians using Twitter as the arguments presented seem lessened and are not targetting an audience who is properly informed. The media is too fascinated by comments tweeted by individuals and it is a free and self-perpetuating source of material for the less scrupulous elements of the media. I was unaware of certain businesses targeting individuals who had made a Tweet that deem to be unacceptable. I think businesses have the right to decline custom should they so wish. By the same token, you wonder how far this might go , for example, with something like internet banking where an individual could be prevented from using a service and effectively cut off from society. I have no idea whether this has happened yet. It certainly seems possible as has been witnessed with the behaviour of a certain entrepreneur famous for his cars and owning Twitter. The problem is actually far wider than this debate has been suggested as "influencers" have the potential to cause serious issues that have implications for democracy. The whole concept of Twitter strikes me as tailor - made to attention seekers and the total opposite of people who want their information deliered in a fair and balanced manner. As someone who is passionate about history, one of the disciplines you learn is to be thorough and question all angles. The notion that we are living in a "post-truth" era is frightening. People on the Left and Right of any "Culture War" should have a lot to be concerned about.
Also, the madness going on in the US is a leading indicator. The sort of nativist, conspiracy-riven and increasingly openly anti-democratic nonsense that invaded the American public sphere is being exported, to Canada, to the United Kingdom, and to Europe. That this stuff is becoming mainstream conservative thought is going to sadly be *the* political fulcrum of the next couple decades.
I do agree, Ian. The art of debate, and speaking and learning from people more informed than you might be, or at least being able to sensibly back up and counter arguments seems to be becoming a skill that's getting lost.
I don’t often post on this site as I find so many opinions very biased. A political thread in my opinion is very degrading in many ways and writing an opinion is often mis understood and can lead to insulting behaviour.
And I'll make a prediction: assuming the Conservatives in the UK get wiped out in the next election (and that seems likely), you'll see a strong leadership bid by a candidate taking their cues from American conservatives: a fire-breathing populist (and not of the Eton-educated phony variety) running on anger against the elites in their own party, on culture issues, and against the 'broken' political system as a whole. I don't know whether they'll win -- given that we're still talking about card-carrying Tories who will select the leader, and that group has shifted ideologically by a smaller margin than Tory voters as a whole -- but I do expect that they'll pull a lot more people like them back into the party from the lunatic fringe, and that will set the Conservative Party on the path toward reactionary politics that we've seen repeated over and over with the political right across a number of countries.
Now it's getting scary, we'd never heard of Halloween when we were kids now a ghoulish Faragesque type image is forming in my mind!
