Transfer Rumours Summer '22 Transfer Thread

[Kalman]

Well they are not here now so really does not matter what they say, the players that are here seem happy enough and not heard them complain.

True. I find Smallwood’s comments quite bizarre actually. It’s becoming more common for footballers to bad-mouth former clubs to the media whilst they’re still playing. Usually, they wait until they retire before and do it in their autobiographies or on podcasts these days.

 

[Porthmeor Tiger]

My expectations for this year are top half. We have had some good players come in this summer and let’s be honest it’s been a breath of fresh air after the last few years. The owner has a dream and wants to build something new and exciting. He loves football and has replaced someone who didn’t. I think the new owner understands how important it is to the fans and supporters and that’s important to me. I think the management team will reach for the sky and if that takes a couple of seasons of improvements so be it. Looking forward to the new season and just to be able to say that after the toxic years of the old regime is just great.

 

[look_back_in_amber]

Strange thing is, I could’ve swore someone on here said the club wanted to keep Smallwood for an extra year but he wanted a longer commitment for his future so we didn’t trigger the extra year and parted ways.

Or was that Eaves?

That was big Tom.

 

[1MoreAgain]

True. I find Smallwood’s comments quite bizarre actually. It’s becoming more common for footballers to bad-mouth former clubs to the media whilst they’re still playing. Usually, they wait until they retire before and do it in their autobiographies or on podcasts these days.

Some will always try to show a club in a bad light even if it is to make people/fans think they been done badly by.

 

[Chesh1recat]

I think he's right, from memory, I don't think we won any game he didn't play in.

Well I suppose he might be statistically correct, but if he's talking about league games which I believe is implied, he only missed 4 games, so it isn't much more inaccurate to say City didn't win the matches you and I didn't play!

 

[1MoreAgain]

Don't think FFP applies to holding companies/owners, just the club incomings and outgoings can't be more than 13m average annual loss in a rolling 3 years - though there are exceptions for infrastructure investments, academies and the like.

The only way we can trouble FFP is if there's a danger of spending 39m over any other income (ie transfers out) in any rolling 3 year period. Share issues have been used in the past to circumvent but I think that's tighter now.

I don't think there'd be a meeting if we were just spending the KLP money, as that would be net zero.

People seem to equate breeching FFP with some sort of catastrophic financial meltdown. It isn't. It will just incur a punishment depending on the severity of breech.

Derby dint get relegated because of FFP, they got relegated because Mel Morris spunked a load of cash and couldn't sustain the mess he made without promotion so dumped them in admin.

Reading breeched FFP and survived with their deduction

Wouldn't want to breech it ourselves though.

The money is not the issue it is were it is accumulated from.

Example a club can be sponsored for whatever amount as long as it is legit and the funds coming in are legit, a club can have as many sponsors as it wants.

Now 1 sponsor may have connections to say a successful businessman who has dealings with them say, and through connections that businessman has dealings with say a club owner now that is a legit way to raise money through 3 parties so one has actual access or guarantees to the funds they may need which can be used for whatever the purpose through sponsorships.

Don't know if i explained that right at all but i am sure some will get my drift.

 

[Donatella Anybody]

My expectations for this year are top half. We have had some good players come in this summer and let’s be honest it’s been a breath of fresh air after the last few years. The owner has a dream and wants to build something new and exciting. He loves football and has replaced someone who didn’t. I think the new owner understands how important it is to the fans and supporters and that’s important to me. I think the management team will reach for the sky and if that takes a couple of seasons of improvements so be it. Looking forward to the new season and just to be able to say that after the toxic years of the old regime is just great.

Personally I haven’t a clue how this season will turn out. A lot depends on if the new team gels but at least there’s a positive vibe around the club for a change utt

 

[askewshair]

I suppose a relationship with juve would massively help as the feeder club doesn't usually pay any wages of the loanees. Free players basically.

But we need to be absolutely certain Juve are best equipped to be our feeder club

 

[johnbo]

I keep seeing people say if we sign Nwakaeme it'll be an incredible signing, why is that? Wikipedia says he's a winger who scores ~10 goals a season which seems pretty good, but is there more to it? I'm just curious why he seems to be so well-known and highly rated on here.

Got to admit I’m almost clueless on all the signings never mind this lad, until I watch them for 2/3 games and work out who can pass, who as that extra skill, who can tackle then I just don’t know. It will be interesting finding out but I just hope many live up to the standards some make out on here.

 

[askewshair]

As far as I can tell, they took out a loan to pay for the club. Then, they tried to pay back the loan when they got the sponsors sorted (for which the money had not yet arrived) but because that money was already in guarantee to buy the club (or whatever the financial term is), it couldn't be taken off the table and they had to use the loan money to buy the club because the sponsorship cash hadn't arrived. CA and the others then paid and the loan was paid back.

That doesn't seem dodgy at all to me, but the way this person said it seemed to indicate there was something shady about it (they also gave a "warning" about the owners, which sounded more like personal feelings), which is why I posted it on here. I can't see anything wrong with that transaction or what went down, I was more just trying to get a sense of whether it was true or not.

By the sounds of the DM's, it is.

A close friend who works in Turkiye (not a football fan and wasn’t aware specifically of Acun) has always said no one gets on in business in Turkiye unless you’re corrupt. No exceptions.

 

[Jeff Lynnes PBCW™]

But we need to be absolutely certain Juve are best equipped to be our feeder club

Juve barely qualified for champions league last year finishing fourth. I think we should be setting our ambitions higher

 

[askewshair]

Surely the amount to buy the club was a lot more than the sponsorship deal income?[/QUOTE
Was the story that Ozil and the biscuit tycoon were providing finance a load of bolocks? We were told this by the vice chair of the Trust who claimed he had been in a meeting with Acun, who actually stated this. If it is bollocks, then it’s very irresponsible of him.

 

[Charon]

some players have got an inflated opinion of their worth - we were a very much bottom end of the Championship club with some good players and a number of average / below average players - it was obvious we needed a clear out and with the sole exception of KLP, none of those that have gone were good enough to push for the premier league and that includes Honeyman - he might have been a good sub to have but that's not what he wanted and that's ok - we failed last season because our attack didn't score enough, our midfield didn't create enough and our defence leaked too much - the team needed wholesale changes to push on and that's exactly what's happening - so thank you Richie but if you were as good as you thought you really wouldn't be off to Bradford

 

[Jeff Lynnes PBCW™]

some players have got an inflated opinion of their worth - we were a very much bottom end of the Championship club with some good players and a number of average / below average players - it was obvious we needed a clear out and with the sole exception of KLP, none of those that have gone were good enough to push for the premier league and that includes Honeyman - he might have been a good sub to have but that's not what he wanted and that's ok - we failed last season because our attack didn't score enough, our midfield didn't create enough and our defence leaked too much - the team needed wholesale changes to push on and that's exactly what's happening - so thank you Richie but if you were as good as you thought you really wouldn't be off to Bradford

“And what’s so wrong with lingering at the bottom of the championship” said Chazz (probably)

 

[SW3 Chelsea Tiger]

some players have got an inflated opinion of their worth - we were a very much bottom end of the Championship club with some good players and a number of average / below average players - it was obvious we needed a clear out and with the sole exception of KLP, none of those that have gone were good enough to push for the premier league and that includes Honeyman - he might have been a good sub to have but that's not what he wanted and that's ok - we failed last season because our attack didn't score enough, our midfield didn't create enough and our defence leaked too much - the team needed wholesale changes to push on and that's exactly what's happening - so thank you Richie but if you were as good as you thought you really wouldn't be off to Bradford

I don’t think we did fail last season, the goal was always about survival….we achieved that

 

[Shark Sports]

I don’t think we did fail last season, the goal was always about survival….we achieved that

We certainly didn't fail, it was just a real disappointment that some of our key players from L1 didn't step up.

Doc and Wilks especially, I hoped they'd both adjust well

 

[Kalman]

some players have got an inflated opinion of their worth - we were a very much bottom end of the Championship club with some good players and a number of average / below average players - it was obvious we needed a clear out and with the sole exception of KLP, none of those that have gone were good enough to push for the premier league and that includes Honeyman - he might have been a good sub to have but that's not what he wanted and that's ok - we failed last season because our attack didn't score enough, our midfield didn't create enough and our defence leaked too much - the team needed wholesale changes to push on and that's exactly what's happening - so thank you Richie but if you were as good as you thought you really wouldn't be off to Bradford

Agree with all of that except about the defence. Thought we were pretty good defensively, the attack and midfield was average or below average though, barring KLP.

 

[Mckechnie Orange]

The money is not the issue it is were it is accumulated from.

Example a club can be sponsored for whatever amount as long as it is legit and the funds coming in are legit, a club can have as many sponsors as it wants.

Now 1 sponsor may have connections to say a successful businessman who has dealings with them say, and through connections that businessman has dealings with say a club owner now that is a legit way to raise money through 3 parties so one has actual access or guarantees to the funds they may need which can be used for whatever the purpose through sponsorships.

Don't know if i explained that right at all but i am sure some will get my drift.

That's a separate thing to FFP, that's just how sponsorships work..

 

[SydneyTiger14]

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[Benjo]

Is there any chance of a Sinik or Tetteh appearance tonight? Will they need to be announced first?