Off Topic Migrant crisis

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The one thing I don’t understand about these “genuine asylum seekers” is why they want to risk their lives jumping in a leisure dingy to get to the UK when surely they’ve already reached the safety of Europe ?
No sympathy if the dingy gets a hole in it.
England is fit to explode. We need to export, not import.
 
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A Rwanda official said that they will be put up in a hotel but will be free to come and go
What's to stop them absconding and coming back? This is e exactly what happened when Israel sent refugees to Rwanda several years ago.
 
I heard on the BBC Breakfast news that the migrants being deported to Rwanda include refugees who have fled Afghanistan since to Taliban were allowed to take power again there.

Talk about adding insult to injury.
If ever there was a People with cause never to trust the British again it's the Afghans.
 
I heard on the BBC Breakfast news that the migrants being deported to Rwanda include refugees who have fled Afghanistan since to Taliban were allowed to take power again there.

Talk about adding insult to injury.
If ever there was a People with cause never to trust the British again it's the Afghans.
To be fair who can they trust? Not the Yanks either.
 
Glad to hear the Government's Final Solution to the migrant crisis has been stopped, ironically by a European Court of Human Rights* Judge.

In my opinion this policy crosses the line between immorality and evil.
I'm ashamed that my vote back in 2019 helped to make this happen.



* The European Court of Human Rights is separate from and independent of the European Union
 
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Glad to hear the Government's Final Solution to the migrant crisis has been stopped, ironically by a European Court of Human Rights* Judge.

In my opinion this policy crosses the line between immorality and evil.
I'm ashamed that my vote back in 2019 helped to make this happen.



* The European Court of Human Rights is separate from and independent of the European Union
Don't be harsh on yourself, Lardy. It was the Corbyn factor which gave Boris carte blanche to do whatever he liked. That and Getting Brexit Done.
 
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Should have been careful what I wished for.
Apparently more people support the Rwanda solution than oppose it.
That's the most depressing thing of all.
 
Should have been careful what I wished for.
Apparently more people support the Rwanda solution than oppose it.
That's the most depressing thing of all.
Shockin, juss shockin. Presumably they also think Brexit has been a roaring success. The stage is being set for the break-up of the UK, which could mean that this year could be the last time I visit Scotland without showing my passport.
 
Should have been careful what I wished for.
Apparently more people support the Rwanda solution than oppose it.
That's the most depressing thing of all.
I caught Spanish news this morning. They gave the Rwanda thing a fairly good going over, but then admitted that 40% of the popultion and 70% of conservative voters support it. Which I suppose is the main reason the conservatives are doing it. It's a nice wedge they can drive between segments of the population and hope the biggest slice vites for them. You'd think given the economic times, spending half a million quid on an empty plane sitting on a runway waiting to deport 8 people would make people think there might me a better, more humane way to do this, But despite watching the tories spaffing billions on unusable ppe and bungs to their mates, immigrants still drives people to look at them as a safe option.
As you said, depressing.
 
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Once the Rwanda relocation gets up and running I expect we'll get newsreel from certain quarters showing us what a happy time the asylum seekers are having there - to quieten the doubts and pangs of conscience of Tory voters back home.

That Chinese footage of happy and productive Uighur Muslims in re-education centres comes to mind.
Or those nice movies Dr Goebbels had made, of Jews looking industrious, contented and well cared for in their new homes after being relocated in the East.
 
I caught Spanish news this morning. They gave the Rwanda thing a fairly good going over, but then admitted that 40% of the popultion and 70% of conservative voters support it. Which I suppose is the main reason the conservatives are doing it. It's a nice wedge they can drive between segments of the population and hope the biggest slice vites for them. You'd think given the economic times, spending half a million quid on an empty plane sitting on a runway waiting to deport 8 people would make people think there might me a better, more humane way to do this, But despite watching the tories spaffing billions on unusable ppe and bungs to their mates, immigrants still drives people to look at them as a safe option.
As you said, depressing.
As you say, keeps immigration in the news. The trouble is, there is not a solution to what will become global migrations as climate change kicks in and parts of the world become uninhabitable, but we don't want to hear that, do we? With today's report on how parts of Britain's coastline will go under, Smudge must be concerned abahrt lovely Whitstable, part of which is below sea level.
 
After hearing Tories discuss leaving the European Court of Human Righrs, here's an idiot discussing it a few years back...

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The UK is now a country that disappears people it doesn't want.
Unsurprising that the European Court of Human Rights finds that illegal.

I am dismayed that the UK courts have no problem with it.
Makes me question their independence.
 
Boris is in Rwanda <laugh>. Last week it was Ukraine. Where next? He's got no friends in Europe, the Scots loathe him, maybe the Republican party will get a visit?
 
Rwanda is a big step on from Brexit.
It is nothing less than Boris Johnson's effort to rebuild the British Empire.

Treating Rwanda as a dump - a punishment for our unwanted asylum seekers.
Sowing the idea that it will be so awful and dangerous there, that desperate people will be too afraid to cross the Channel.
Tory nastiness taken to a new level, approaching what began in Germany in 1933.
 
The Home Office fails again to enforce border rules - this time regarding bogus marriages used to get people into the UK...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62477330

Not one prosecution in four years.
Priti Patel talks tough about deporting refugees to Rwanda, but right under her nose a thriving trade in illegal immigration is going on, and her department isn't even trying to counter it.
Our Home Secretary is incompetent as well as cruel.
Effective border control was one of the foundations of the 'Leave' manifesto before 2016.
But - like an ever increasing proportion of what they promised - their words turned out to be empty. And successive Conservative Governments have failed to deliver.

Rwanda is just a stupid policy, full stop. It was never going to work.
But prosecuting, convicting and deporting people who use sham marriages to settle in the UK is a correct and necessary policy - which isn't even being enforced.
Paralysis and Incompetence are the words that best sum up the current Government.
And public confidence that any politicians can do any better is at an all time low I think.

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And I'm sick and tired of hearing what Sunak & Truss have to say.
The result of the Tory Party vote won't be known for over three weeks.
And in the meantime nothing is getting done.