You are seriously suggesting our armed forces deal with civilians, they are trained for warfare, imagine the uproar if one boat sinks and the occupants drown. Sorry I don’t agree.
You are entitled to your opinion I just think you’re wrong.
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You are entitled to your opinion I just think you’re wrong.
We know our system for allowing refugees in is broke, how long has it taken for Ukrainians to be allowed in, there were thousands of people willing to take then in, only to find they had to use the internet to find them themselves. Pathetic!!
Ashton, you question suggestions stopping this awful and dangerous situation.
I heard Starmer voice the left view - platitudes of talking again with the French which simply doesn't work no matter how much we pay them.
Do you have a view ?
I heard Starmer voice the left view - platitudes of talking again with the French which simply doesn't work no matter how much we pay them.
Do you have a view ?
if they get successful flights off the ground then maybe a bit of a sweetner .. however local .gov and intermediate elections are nearly always opposite to party in power ... look at tail end of Labour oppo's with JC in charge they had gains a closing of % and got thrashed ..
Saddest thing, like Bristol we have a labour .gov in council power ... and just look at how much £ has been sent down the sewers into the avon and out sea never to be seen again ...... a less wasteful council would have saved us all about £60 on last council tax .. how do labour present it ... "only about a £1 a week" but want it paid in a lump sum or monthly = £6 a month .. only! before RIP OFF Marvin came to power my CT was about £180month now almost £230 ...
Makes me laugh 130 plus were listed to fly out to Rwanda, Saturday reduced to 37, judgement giving the flight the go ahead by the high court is given and guess what 11 are listed to go, under 10%, British justice.
This government need to get tough-we are sick and tire of the molly cuddling going on-move them out.
those not going are [ some of them ] because they are appealing ... lose the appeal and next flight ... everytime an appeal is lost or won it sets a precedent or is part of a precedent from previous ... I set a prececedent against the social security people in 1983 after having been made redundant in 1981 I did as much work as I could but was out of work for 3 month's in 1983 .... I appealled and won, was advised my case had set a precedent against non disclosure of advice by social regarding my entitlement ... I fought my own case! was awarded over £1000 in 1983 and recieved 1 payment at correct rate before signing off ... got a job! paying about £6 a week less than the social payment ...........
It’s not a question of left or right, I’ve already said I don’t have an answer, but I’ve not seen anyone else that has either, if what has been proposed stops people making the trip, I’m for it, what I can’t agree with is sending people half way around the world, to a country with a dubious human rights record. An approach which also is potentially illegal.
We should ensure our immigration and asylum process is fair and fit for purpose. This would ensure anyone making the trip illegally isn’t there purely because there isn’t a legal route. The illegal smugglers should be dealt with, heavily fined, and imprisoned, rather than purely punishing the immigrants themselves.
it’s a difficult issue I accept, but just pushing the problem to someone else seems lazy, just because we can’t think of a way to deal with it ourselves.
It’s a free country (for now) but there must be considerable amount of spare capacity amongst the armed forces given they’ve little else to do at the moment
It’s never a good idea to pit armed forces against civilians, it usually doesn’t end well.
Probably due to a mixture of Covid and Brexit
But the NHS is largely screwed in many areas such as ambulance waiting times and the NHS being so worthy by making sure they are inclusive rather than treating people who need it and thx huge demands being placed upon it by a population that is growing out of all control
This is the same NHS who have recently removed the word ‘women’ from their Ovarian Cancel ‘help’ page ! I mean come on, wtf is this country coming to with biological men competing and winning at womens sports and the labour leader and deputy unable to answer the question ‘what is a woman’?
It’s all sick joke except it’s not even funny
Granted but at least they are genuine refugees, but mainly women and kids while their menfolk do the honourable thing and stay to fight the Russians
The mirror opposite of what the illegals appear to be doing
I get that but everyone appears to be clutching at straws and the options are rapidly dwindling
It illustrates the system isn’t fit for purpose, neither is the immigration system, and until they’re both fixed we’ve no way of knowing whether the so called illegal immigrants are actual illegal and which would have been allowed in if the systems worked properly.
Appreciate that, but it’s simplistic to say let the armed services do it, that’s never going to work.
I think we’re looking at it from the wrong angle, we need to find a way to stop the traffickers.
seems like the "lawyers" are finding more loop holes .. so plane may go to Rwanda with a few passengers and a load of freight!