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vimhawk said:
I know we're mainly talking about ManU at the moment, but the Chelsea thing is so much of an unknown quantity. I've said it before but I can't fathom how Chelsea are worth some of the figures being banded about, since surely they can't be worth that much more than the players on their current contracts? Nevertheless I would be surprised if the new owners, particularly if American, will be as generous as the previous criminal. After all, some have done takeovers by dumping a lot of new debt on the club they get [rubs hands together]. If they do turn out to be as generous then surely something else dodgy is going on? I say something *else* because we can be sure that something is dodgy in all of these proposals. That is dodgy on top of the idea that it appears the huge loan to Cheski is never going to be repaid, which means it was never a loan, and yet somehow doesn't break FFP.

Fact is Chelsea makes less money over and above their wages than most, so how are the new owners going to address this, particularly if they initiate a lot of new spending?
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The Roman valuation appears to be the sum of :

1. what a market valuation of the club is

2. the 1500m he has personally pumped into the club
over his reign, as loans with 0% interest + no due date


At the very least he could ask for #2, meaning his
ownership has been "zero sum" cost, while he gets all
the acclaim of the silverware he caused to be won during
his reign.
 
KingHotspur said:
Not condoning it but isn’t that what most rich people do (look for ways to avoid paying tax)

And if I was mega rich then I’d be straight out of Tory Britain asap too <laugh>
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If I were mega-rich, I'd be headed to Tory Britain because there would be a guarantee that I'd pay less tax than Gary Barlow

Coincidentally, Hamilton bunked off to Switzerland shortly after Gordon Brown became PM
 
Dier Hard said:
If I’m honest I think we’re a fair way off of City and Pool. Whilst City have their backing they’re going to be almost impossible to catch unless a team nails it at recruitment over many windows like Pool have done under Edwards and Klopp, you then also need the manager like Klopp to make it work. Pool are now in a position though where they’re leagues above most of Europe thanks to that recruitment and so if they maintain it with more good signings (like Diaz) then it’ll be hard to overtake them.

Chelsea could be caught, depending on how their eventual new owners go about things. They could lose Rudiger on a free who’s been one of the top CBs in the Prem since he came, Silva isn’t getting younger, Christensen is also leaving on a free supposedly to Barca, whilst Azpi could go too with just a year left on his deal. That’s the whole heart of their defence either leaving or ageing and it won’t be easy to replace all that quality so quickly which could open up a chance to catch them, albeit it’s still slim I’d say.

Getting top four will be huge for us this season as it likely helps keep Kane and gives Conte/ Paratici a wider pool of players to target. I think fourth place could be a real battle over the next few years though between us, Arsenal, Utd and possibly West Ham/ Leicester. Sooner or later one team needs to get it right to secure it long term, I hope that’s us, certainly more optimistic with Paratici and Conte than I was in the last couple years.
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Debatable. He's been class for the past season and a half (since tuchel come). I remember you guys all saying you wouldn't want him whatsoever (for his footballing ability rather than when he pissed you guys off was it last year for racism claims) and i was asked for feedback between him and sanchez which i said he'd be a good buy and better than sanchez :p.

He started off well, went downhill and is now great.
 
BobbyD said:
Debatable. He's been class for the past season and a half (since tuchel come). I remember you guys all saying you wouldn't want him whatsoever (for his footballing ability rather than when he pissed you guys off was it last year for racism claims) and i was asked for feedback between him and sanchez which i said he'd be a good buy and better than sanchez :p.

He started off well, went downhill and is now great.
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He pissed us off on more than one occasion. His refusal to accept that the police and the club found no evidence of facial abuse directed at him. He had previously got Son sent off with hid ridiculous reaction after he fouled Son
 
paultheplug said:
He pissed us off on more than one occasion. His refusal to accept that the police and the club found no evidence of facial abuse directed at him. He had previously got Son sent off with hid ridiculous reaction after he fouled Son
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<laugh>

He basically called Spurs fans racists for not reporting something that didn't happen:
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...r-says-racism-won-after-abuse-goes-unpunished

He points to the Marega abuse without noticing that the events don't parallel each other.
Everyone heard the **** that was hurled at the other player. Nobody heard any towards Rudiger.
His own teammates that were next to him didn't hear it.

There's nothing to support his claims and yet he doesn't even appear to consider that he might be mistaken.
If there were any monkey gestures then I can't see how the cameras would've missed them.
He's slurred the club and the fans while playing for a racist club owned by a crook. **** him.
 
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PleaseNotPoll said:
<laugh>

He basically called Spurs fans racists for not reporting something that didn't happen:
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...r-says-racism-won-after-abuse-goes-unpunished

He points to the Marega abuse without noticing that the events don't parallel each other.
Everyone heard the **** that was hurled at the other player. Nobody heard any towards Rudiger.
His own teammates that were next to him didn't hear it.

There's nothing to support his claims and yet he doesn't even appear to consider that he might be mistaken.
If there were any monkey gestures then I can't see how the cameras would've missed them.
He's slurred the club and the fans while playing for a racist club owned by a crook. **** him.
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If Rudiger was in an overseas league and did all of this,
and was publicly angling for a move to the PL, I would
immediately say he would be a "good fit" for Chelsea.
 
The RDBD said:
If Rudiger was in an overseas league and did all of this,
and was publicly angling for a move to the PL, I would
immediately say he would be a "good fit" for Chelsea.
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He was racially abused by Lazio fans, but that's not exactly a massive surprise.
One of their defenders joined in too, which isn't much of a shock either.
He also says that Chelsea fans racially abused him after Lampard got sacked.
Can't say that I'm remotely surprised by that.

The difference between those accusations and the one at us? Evidence.
 
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PleaseNotPoll said:
He was racially abused by Lazio fans, but that's not exactly a massive surprise.
One of their defenders joined in too, which isn't much of a shock either.
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Oh, he has now grown auditory superpowers meaning
he can hear the "dog whistle" frequencies that Spurs race
haters chant, that all those mere mortals in the WHL
crowd cannot.
 
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The RDBD said:
Oh, he has now grown auditory superpowers meaning
he can hear the "dog whistle" frequencies that Spurs race
haters chant, that all those mere mortals in the WHL
crowd cannot.
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Or microphones, apparently. And cameras can't pick up their gestures.
 
Spurf said:
Chelsea look jaded
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The defence has completely unraveled, we need the end of the season fast.

The future looks very uncertain for us and United - huge opportunity for Arsenal, Tottenham and Leicester if they all get their act together and start strong next season.
 
District Line said:
The defence has completely unraveled, we need the end of the season fast.

The future looks very uncertain for us and United - huge opportunity for Arsenal, Tottenham and Leicester if they all get their act together and start strong next season.
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Not sure about that, I expect Chelsea to be back soon as strong as ever. You have played a lot of games this season and the ownership issue spreads uncertainty in the players.
If Conte stays then I would expect a much stronger tougher Spurs next season but how strong is unknown right now. Chelsea on the other hand already have a very strong squad which at your best can be challenging for the title.
 
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This was Arbroath's official twitter posting "****" after conceding a late goal.
 
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