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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

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    Votes: 56 47.9%
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So you’re saying it’s ok to attack one and not the other ?

not that i agree with westy in this case but it's called nuance. If Russia crushes protests it's dictatorship and repression. If the UK crushes protests then it's protecting liberty and stopping unruly people
 
not that i agree with westy in this case but it's called nuance. If Russia crushes protests it's dictatorship and repression. If the UK crushes protests then it's protecting liberty and stopping unruly people

Again that’s your opinion Bobby……in your example a lot of Russians might say the protests are from a Neo Facist element who wants to disrupt and destroy the lives of innocent people.
One man’s terrorist…….
 
Again that’s your opinion Bobby……in your example a lot of Russians might say the protests are from a Neo Facist element who wants to disrupt and destroy the lives of innocent people.
One man’s terrorist…….

yeah but it's all within context. I'm pretty sure for most if not all people when gadaffi/bin laden were "murdered" no one batted and eyelid compared to say captain moore or sean lock.

I'm sure there's been a few (Me definitely) where a case like this the guy who murdered sarah everard and below he should be tortured/given the death penalty/shot in front of his kids (this is a joke) whereas if you were to say the same to the queen or in this case julia hartley brewer it's not allowed
 
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yeah but it's all within context. I'm pretty sure for most if not all people when gadaffi/bin laden were "murdered" no one batted and eyelid compared to say captain moore or sean lock.

I'm sure there's been a few (Me definitely) where a case like this the guy who murdered sarah everard and below he should be tortured/given the death penalty/shot in front of his kids (this is a joke) whereas if you were to say the same to the queen or in this case julia hartley brewer it's not allowed

Im really sorry mate, I don’t get the point you’re making……been a long weekend of nights. Explain further please
 
yeah but it's all within context. I'm pretty sure for most if not all people when gadaffi/bin laden were "murdered" no one batted and eyelid compared to say captain moore or sean lock.

I'm sure there's been a few (Me definitely) where a case like this the guy who murdered sarah everard and below he should be tortured/given the death penalty/shot in front of his kids (this is a joke) whereas if you were to say the same to the queen or in this case julia hartley brewer it's not allowed

It's hard to make a joke about the murder of Sarah Everard. There will be some comedians that do, and I don't believe in censorship. But the fact is, try that on most monitored social media, and you're gone...
 
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Im really sorry mate, I don’t get the point you’re making……been a long weekend of nights. Explain further please

It's hard to make a joke about the murder of Sarah Everard. There will be some comedians that do, and I don't believe in censorship. But the fact is, tried that on most monitored social media, and you're gone...

Sorry lads, my grammars been awful, doing my work and responding isn't a good mix

@Staines R's i guess we are all hypocrites to a certain extent if you want to ever get into any debate without any context. I guess the 2nd point was more towards goldy

@Goldhawk-Road i was talking about hate speech without nuance. You are technically correct but it's far easier to accept hate speech at certain people and things will slide. I'm sure no one was calling out hate speech on the guy who killed sarah everard.
 
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Join the club Bobby, I can't seem to multi-task either. I look back at some of my posts and say "did I write that"... and I'm not talking about the s22t I talk either.:emoticon-0100-smile

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thanks ellers. Hope you're having a great day
 
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They might if he was to be shot in front of his kids...

I feel sorry for the kids of someone like that, if he has them. They’re ****ed. Not saying he’s Hitler but I think I read that all of his extended family agreed to never have kids and just killed the bloodline or maybe some of them agreed that and others didn’t.
 
They might if he was to be shot in front of his kids...

I'm not sure the in front of the kids part is the part that is the hate speech part. It may make it more distasteful but the pertinent part is being shot (or being killed/maimed/tortured). Again i'm pretty sure no one called out any of that stuff when it happened
 
Sorry lads, my grammars been awful, doing my work and responding isn't a good mix

@Staines R's i guess we are all hypocrites to a certain extent if you want to ever get into any debate without any context. I guess the 2nd point was more towards goldy

@Goldhawk-Road i was talking about hate speech without nuance. You are technically correct but it's far easier to accept hate speech at certain people and things will slide. I'm sure no one was calling out hate speech on the guy who killed sarah everard.

Absolutely spot on mate…….i think you’d struggle to find anyone who isn’t a hypocrite in some way…..but not many would admit it
 
I feel sorry for the kids of someone like that, if he has them. They’re ****ed. Not saying he’s Hitler but I think I read that all of his extended family agreed to never have kids and just killed the bloodline or maybe some of them agreed that and others didn’t.

I met the wife and kids of an infamous, horrific murderer a while back…..it was very sad
 
Absolutely spot on mate…….i think you’d struggle to find anyone who isn’t a hypocrite in some way…..but not many would admit it

I think there is being a pure hypocrite and being a hypocrite via semantics.

You say you are an anarchist yet you join a non anarchy structure for work (paramedic), you support the cultural consumerism of a capitalist society and inadvertently support the tories by probably buying their products.

I wouldn't call you a hypocrite cause the above is true as unless you literally live in the middle of the amazon where tribes are protected, you cannot actually get away from this

anyway i believe in individualism and judging people on what they do. Generally speaking as long as it doesn't harm others then i'm fine with it (although you could argue how much does ideology, preaching) go to influence people positively/negatively
 
I think there is being a pure hypocrite and being a hypocrite via semantics.

You say you are an anarchist yet you join a non anarchy structure for work (paramedic), you support the cultural consumerism of a capitalist society and inadvertently support the tories by probably buying their products.

I wouldn't call you a hypocrite cause the above is true as unless you literally live in the middle of the amazon where tribes are protected, you cannot actually get away from this

anyway i believe in individualism and judging people on what they do. Generally speaking as long as it doesn't harm others then i'm fine with it (although you could argue how much does ideology, preaching) go to influence people positively/negatively

To correct you mate….I did consider myself an anarchist ‘cos I truly believed that through cooperation and understanding we as a society didn’t actually need a centralised government, and could self govern ourselves through a sort of ‘commune’ system.
However, and I stated it here ages back, I’ve now realised after the events in the USA, that could never happen due to mans inherent greed and the fact that bullies and despots will also climb to the top and subjugate the poor.
Im a vegetarian who has taken direct action in the Animal Rights cause…I drink milk and eat diary. That makes me a proper hypocrite
 
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