Off Topic Covid 19 restrictions have done one

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If someone kept away from their GP "for fear of adding to virus pressures facing NHS”, what does that have to do with wthether there was a lockdown or not? It's someone being public spirited. You may argue that they were foolish to do so, but they weren't prevented from seeing a GP in those cases.

Try seeing my GP. It was easier to get past the barriers in the GDP if you were trying to get out.
 
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But all the right wing media are not to be trusted. Only the Guardian and people on Facebook and twitter tell it like it is.
BTW, there have been a number of sceptical pieces written by journalists on the Daily Mail as well, another right wing rag, particularly Peter Hitchens. If some people had a broader reading of papers they would see these things.

where have you got this nonsense from?
“But alltheright wing media are not to be trusted. Only the Guardian and people on Facebook and twitter tell it like it is”
 
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...ve-against-the-variant-says-who-12483729?s=09

Sky now reporting the good news that the latest variant, as expected, shouldn't be too bad. Puts a definitive end to the idea that "the MSM" only want to report in a way that will scare us, you'd hope.

Does it ****! There is no balance in my first article that was my original point, all spectulation focusing on the worst possible outcome, not the probable. Project fear is alive & well….

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...nfections-yet-that-may-overwhelm-nhs-12483709
 
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https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...ve-against-the-variant-says-who-12483729?s=09

Sky now reporting the good news that the latest variant, as expected, shouldn't be too bad. Puts a definitive end to the idea that "the MSM" only want to report in a way that will scare us, you'd hope.

Only the sort of people who believe in shape-shifting aliens in secret nuclear bunkers thought that in the first place.

Without going too much in to politics there was a good article about Dr Susan Michie, a member of SAGE and a big promoter of the need for lockdowns. She is a lifelong member of the Communist Party and sees lockdowns as a way of destroying the economy and replacing our system with a Marxist one. She is a big admirer of China. She is not a virologist or epidemiologist but specialises in behavioural science, specialising in getting people to make different choices. Why she is a member of SAGE is a mystery.The BBC which regularly gives her air time makes no mention of these things.
 
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Only the sort of people who believe in shape-shifting aliens in secret nuclear bunkers thought that in the first place.

Without going too much in to politics there was a good article about Dr Susan Michie, a member of SAGE and a big promoter of the need for lockdowns. She is a lifelong member of the Communist Party and sees lockdowns as a way of destroying the economy and replacing our system with a Marxist one. She is a big admirer of China. She is not a virologist or epidemiologist but specialises in behavioural science, specialising in getting people to make different choices. Why she is a member of SAGE is a mystery.The BBC which regularly gives her air time makes no mention of these things.

Finally something we agree on lol
 
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Does it ****! There is no balance my first article that was my original point, all spectulation focusing on the worst possible outcome, not the probable. Project fear is alive & well….

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...nfections-yet-that-may-overwhelm-nhs-12483709

News organisation quotes what a body connected with the handling of the virus has said. Shock! Horror! Where is the nearest safe space where we can cover our ears while droning la, la, lal, la ...?
Maybe, if like Billy Liar, we could walk to the end of the road without standing on the cracks in the pavement it will all go away?
 
I am not medically trained or a scientist, but here is my view for what it is worth.

Two vaccines competing for viral dominance and both of them cannot win. Delta is spreading fast, but due to the vaccine program in the UK, the NHS can cope. Omicron is a bit of an unknown, but its spread will either be limited by the Delta variant or it will dominate Delta and become the main virus. If Delta wins, the NHS can cope, if Omicron dominates, its affect is thought to be milder and so Delta will die off and we will have a softer virus. Either way the NHS will cope. If Omicron is worse, who knows what will happen, Delta was worse than the first two, so...

Masks and social distancing - Yes.
Lockdown - No

The anti vaxers can get to **** in my personal opinion, but it is healthy to debate, these things, just at times admit that you actually know **** all and concede every now and again. Did I say anti vaxers can get to ****, what I meant to say was "ANTI VAXERS CAN GET TO ****!"
 
Let's have a cup half full moment....there's plenty say Omicron varaint could be a blessing in disquise and the moment some of us are waiting for, all of the people speaking out from South Afica bar none are saying Omicron is much milder.

A more balanced view from the Uk
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One more note how as this spread from country to country seeing as only the double vaccinated can travel ?
 
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Let's have a cup half full moment....there's plenty say Omicron varaint could be a blessing in disquise and the moment some of us are waiting for, all of the people speaking out from South Afica bar none are saying Omicron is much milder.

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One more note how as this spread from country to country seeing as only the double vaccinated can travel ?

Because you can still get it if vaccinated? And pass it on? You will not in most cases be as seriously affected if vaccinated. Haven't you being reading about vaccinations?
 
Let's have a cup half full moment....there's plenty say Omicron varaint could be a blessing in disquise and the moment some of us are waiting for, all of the people speaking out from South Afica bar none are saying Omicron is much milder.

A more balanced view from the Uk
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One more note how as this spread from country to country seeing as only the double vaccinated can travel ?

One reason given why it is not having too much of an effect in South Africa is that the population is younger than in European countries and things may alter in countries with an older population. There again, they may not. TWT.
 
Keep the immuno-compromised shielded & let natural selection run it’s course. Just a thought,

How long do you think they should be under house arrest, sorry shielded, for? If people would just follow basic precautions, hand washing, sanitising etc it would save a lot of problems. But as anyone going onto a supermarket or pub and watching people breezing by the sanitisers or not washing their hands after using the toilets knows too many people just can't be bothered.
 
How long do you think they should be under house arrest, sorry shielded, for? If people would just follow basic precautions, hand washing, sanitising etc it would save a lot of problems. But as anyone going onto a supermarket or pub and watching people breezing by the sanitisers or not washing their hands after using the toilets knows too many people just can't be bothered.

Under normal circumstances people who are immuno-supressed will have some kind of shielding. I’d like to think most wouldn’t visit the pub loos straight after a round if chemo.

I wouldn’t fancy mingling in the current climate if my immune system
had been knocked out. I’m upmost careful anyway & are openly rude to people who get too close even if they have a mask on.

To answer your question, maybe until natural selection is winning.