Match Day Thread Luton v Hull City

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It’s all very North Korea, isn’t it? McCann will only take questions from journos who walk on eggshells around him and the club blacklists anyone who so much as asks a challenging question.

Well, the post-match intervew simply becomes a club statement, toeing the party line. No opportunity for challenge, no external scrutiny.

It also shows contempt for supporters, members and wider stakeholders - which for most, over time has proven to become an unwanted trademark of the current regime.

I hate to accept it, but the club I love under the Allams and McCann is just rotten, cowardly, petulent, arrogant, Stalinistic in approach and so short sightedly single-minded that there's simply no palatable future imaginable without the hope that positive change in the near future is going to be forthcoming.

We need an absolute change of approach to become forward thinking and open again, accepting of criticism, pragmatic towards relationships with stakeholders and engaging once more - as opposed to protectionist and insular, self defeating and petty as has sadly become the norm in recent years.

Such a move can only come with change at the very top, because that is the apparent culture the Allam regime has seemingly deliberately propagated in recent years.

They could and should have been local heroes, but personal vendettas, questionable leadership qualities and at times outright petulance has led to a near complete dissociation between the club itself and the wider supportive community which any successful club, at any level ultimately relies upon.

Enabling the first team manager and squad to cower and hide from scrutiny is just a symptom of the malevolent, arrogant leadership style since 2014, perpetuated from the very top of Hull City AFC.

We've now had 7 years of this approach, and we've seen the advantage of prior success evaporate at the behest of Allam's subjective egotism, incompetence, wastefullness, apparent short term greed and persistent non-collegiality.

Maybe that approach works in a manufacturing industry, but it certainly doesn't in a cultural one.

Enough is now enough.

(and if anyone's reading this from Hull Live - that's how you structure an opinion piece, pissed and without being proof-read. Still better, more concise and pertinent than Swannys ghostwritten ****ing drivel.)

Oh, and Baz. Check your work before you publish it eh?

I generally find the content balanced and reasonable, but half of your published articles are a bloody shambles in final format.
 
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Well, finally the Allam's have found a manager that is also pissed off the supporters in addition to them doing it for years, Ehab must be happy man.

On the game, nothing much to add to what I said last night after watching the game, a lot of endeavour from most players, but as usual no end result.

I agree with others that we lack quality, but having said that, when you see teams like Luton/Boro/Blackpool/Peterborough, who are all doing much better than us, their squads are no great shakes. With this group of players, any reasonable coach could have them playing in a style capable of being a mid-table team.

I am still of the view that the Allam's are insisting on us playing 433, as even when clearly we played 352 against Boro, McCann still would not accept that is what the system was, and said something like, I just tweaked the 433 formation. If that is the case, then he is just towing the party line to keep his job, as any other person would say **** this, I'm going to change come what may.

This wouldn't do any harm.

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Well, finally the Allam's have found a manager that is also pissed off the supporters in addition to them doing it for years, Ehab must be happy man.

On the game, nothing much to add to what I said last night after watching the game, a lot of endeavour from most players, but as usual no end result.

I agree with others that we lack quality, but having said that, when you see teams like Luton/Boro/Blackpool/Peterborough, who are all doing much better than us, their squads are no great shakes. With this group of players, any reasonable coach could have them playing in a style capable of being a mid-table team.

I am still of the view that the Allam's are insisting on us playing 433, as even when clearly we played 352 against Boro, McCann still would not accept that is what the system was, and said something like, I just tweaked the 433 formation. If that is the case, then he is just towing the party line to keep his job, as any other person would say **** this, I'm going to change come what may.

This wouldn't do any harm.

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Fair play to Deano.

Gonna have to keep him away from the apprentices and the dubbing pot. Haha!

He isn't the entire solution, but let's bring Barmbs back into the fold too.

Don't think either would do any harm to have involved from time to time.

Xx
 
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I was there at the match and I have just a quick look at some of the posts on the match thread from posters not at the game but following it via other means, none of which give a true reflection of the game or the afternoon. Luton took a very physical approach to the game and bullied us from the kick off. Adebayo in particular was a handful. I thought we were going to crumble in the first twenty minutes because they were bombarding crosses into our box and it was all a bit too frantic not helped by a 100% homer of a referee. Some of the challenges were bordering on assault. Young Greaves seemed to have been targeted for some of the physical stuff because they battered him.
I was pleased when we went in only one down at half time.
Second half was a lot better by City and we took it to them. We stopped the crosses from them into our box and to be fair Luton looked to have run out of steam. City were the better team. I can say that throughout the 90 mins every one of our team gave everything for the shirt and the manager. We had the best two players on the field in KLP and Docherty but we never looked strong enough physically. At the final whistle you'd have thought Luton had won the FA Cup Final by the reaction from their fans, players and manager.
We are lacking in experience and muscle. We lack a cutting edge up front and leader like Adebayo was for them, and we lack a bit more nous from the touchline.
Must mention our support which was decent enough considering. About two dozen young lads, and credit to them for going, chanting 'Your getting sacked in the morning' then in the next breath 'Bradley is a Tiger' Bradley is Luton's thug of a centre half who left his mark on every one of our players he came into contact with.
Totally classless.
 
I was there at the match and I have just a quick look at some of the posts on the match thread from posters not at the game but following it via other means, none of which give a true reflection of the game or the afternoon. Luton took a very physical approach to the game and bullied us from the kick off. Adebayo in particular was a handful. I thought we were going to crumble in the first twenty minutes because they were bombarding crosses into our box and it was all a bit too frantic not helped by a 100% homer of a referee. Some of the challenges were bordering on assault. Young Greaves seemed to have been targeted for some of the physical stuff because they battered him.
I was pleased when we went in only one down at half time.
Second half was a lot better by City and we took it to them. We stopped the crosses from them into our box and to be fair Luton looked to have run out of steam. City were the better team. I can say that throughout the 90 mins every one of our team gave everything for the shirt and the manager. We had the best two players on the field in KLP and Docherty but we never looked strong enough physically. At the final whistle you'd have thought Luton had won the FA Cup Final by the reaction from their fans, players and manager.
We are lacking in experience and muscle. We lack a cutting edge up front and leader like Adebayo was for them, and we lack a bit more nous from the touchline.
Must mention our support which was decent enough considering. About two dozen young lads, and credit to them for going, chanting 'Your getting sacked in the morning' then in the next breath 'Bradley is a Tiger' Bradley is Luton's thug of a centre half who left his mark on every one of our players he came into contact with.
Totally classless.
Well done for going been a few times seen one win and a couple of losses. Your review seemed a little positive and fair. Do you think you could summarise what ‘you ‘ would do with team picks , tactics and positions based on yesterday. We all tend to pick small bits out . Have you got the time ?
 
Having had my first Sunday lie in for what seems like years I’ve come to a conclusion.

The Allams as we know are not willing to put anymore cash into the club.
We have no parachute cash.
There is very little if any cash left to come in from sold players.

The Allams will be desperate to get out now.
Why sack GM and pay him off with their money.

Think we will have new owners this time.
Yep November should bring good news.
 
I was there at the match and I have just a quick look at some of the posts on the match thread from posters not at the game but following it via other means, none of which give a true reflection of the game or the afternoon. Luton took a very physical approach to the game and bullied us from the kick off. Adebayo in particular was a handful. I thought we were going to crumble in the first twenty minutes because they were bombarding crosses into our box and it was all a bit too frantic not helped by a 100% homer of a referee. Some of the challenges were bordering on assault. Young Greaves seemed to have been targeted for some of the physical stuff because they battered him.
I was pleased when we went in only one down at half time.
Second half was a lot better by City and we took it to them. We stopped the crosses from them into our box and to be fair Luton looked to have run out of steam. City were the better team. I can say that throughout the 90 mins every one of our team gave everything for the shirt and the manager. We had the best two players on the field in KLP and Docherty but we never looked strong enough physically. At the final whistle you'd have thought Luton had won the FA Cup Final by the reaction from their fans, players and manager.
We are lacking in experience and muscle. We lack a cutting edge up front and leader like Adebayo was for them, and we lack a bit more nous from the touchline.
Must mention our support which was decent enough considering. About two dozen young lads, and credit to them for going, chanting 'Your getting sacked in the morning' then in the next breath 'Bradley is a Tiger' Bradley is Luton's thug of a centre half who left his mark on every one of our players he came into contact with.
Totally classless.
i agree the players gave their all, again. That has never been in question this season. Whether we saw everything or not, we lost and failed to even score yet again against another side that are no great shakes. 6 away games on the trot! Our squad is not that bad.
 
Well done for going been a few times seen one win and a couple of losses. Your review seemed a little positive and fair. Do you think you could summarise what ‘you ‘ would do with team picks , tactics and positions based on yesterday. We all tend to pick small bits out . Have you got the time ?
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But, as you asked, it was obvious from the first minute what Luton's tactics were yesterday and it was to bombard our penalty box with crosses. They were delivered at speed from all angles to Luton's big lads up front who where knocking our defenders all over the place. We had Emmanuel sat on the bench, a big imposing lad and I'd have brought him on to help shore up our back line, or had him on from the start ? Luton were pushing deep on us which leaves them exposed to counter attacks. Magennis is never going to out sprint anyone and he'd have been more useful alongside Greaves who was getting dogs abuse at the back with no protection at all. Randle Williams would maybe have been more of a threat up front hogging the half way line to pounce on the counter attack.
Perhaps we should set up not to lose a game which would mean dropping a forward for an extra defender ? A point would have been a good result yesterday then you build on that for the next game. But I'm not the manager just a supporter.