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Made no sense what so ever to whom ? Why did the council install those gates across the entrance to Guildhall ? For fun ? Or do you think they received the same 'advice' ?
Of course the gate across the footpath would not 'keep terrorists away'. It does denies access when there is no reason for anyone to be wandering about around the stadium at all hours, and that was the risk assessment. But you wouldn't believe me if you saw a hand written letter from the Pope.
Ffs ..I've said it once and I'll say it again...you are one of the allams....no question.....just sell your club and fcuk off
 
The SMC claimed that they were acting under advice from Humberside Police, who in turn were advised by the Counter-Terrorism Unit. Only Hull City Council obtained copies of all the correspondence between the Police and SMC relating to security at the ground and absolutely nobody had said a word about the gate.

They removed all the signs that mentioned the Council at the same time, that was nothing to do with a terrorist threat either.

It was all just the usual game playing, the real reason for locking the gates, was the Allam Out graffiti that was being sprayed on the stadium on a night.

I thought it was generally accepted that the real reason was just to upset Hull City Council. Surely if they were concerned about Allam Out graffiti being sprayed on the stadium at night they could simply lock the gate at night and have it open during the day (in the same way as they presumably do with access to the rest of the stadium).
 
<laugh> You've just made that up.

Hull City Council said that having had sight of all correspondence, there was no mention of a need to get a gate installed. In fact there was no specific instructions at all, just general advice about football stadiums potentially being a target, as it was a place that a lot of people congregated. The SMC even admitted that they'd received no specific instructions, but that they'd decided the walkway was a security risk themselves.

Still, it's worked, nobody has been blown up in West Park since the gates were installed.
I don't make anything up. Perhaps I , and everyone else should consult you before posting because you seem to know everything ?
 
Urika says he's seen the letter, knowing him I have no doubt whatsover he's seen it. I also have little doubt he'll give much of a toss who believes him or not. :emoticon-0100-smile

I believe he's seen a letter. But I don't believe for a second that it says the counter terrorism police have insisted that Hull City erect a gate which would do nothing to deter terrorism but conveniently would achieve the Allams' long-standing goal of annoying the fans and council, which coincidentally peaked at that exact time. If the counter terrorism police were that stupid we'd be in a lot of trouble.

This has always been a feature of the Allam playbook; taking something real and blowing it way out of proportion to the extent that the point they're using it to make becomes a complete lie. The letter probably noted that venues need to consider terrorism threats, maybe it mentioned access points in a very general sense, but no way did it say that we have to put one gate up on one entrance only, it's utterly ridiculous that anyone would be prepared to entertain that idea.
 
I believe he's seen a letter. But I don't believe for a second that it says the counter terrorism police have insisted that Hull City erect a gate which would do nothing to deter terrorism but conveniently would achieve the Allams' long-standing goal of annoying the fans and council, which coincidentally peaked at that exact time. If the counter terrorism police were that stupid we'd be in a lot of trouble.

This has always been a feature of the Allam playbook; taking something real and blowing it way out of proportion to the extent that the point they're using it to make becomes a complete lie. The letter probably noted that venues need to consider terrorism threats, maybe it mentioned access points in a very general sense, but no way did it say that we have to put one gate up on one entrance only, it's utterly ridiculous that anyone would be prepared to entertain that idea.
I didn't say the counter terrorism unit insisted on anything. It was advice. Advice can be taken and it can be ignored. The danger then is if is ignored and something does go wrong who do you think would shoulder the blame ?
I couldn't give a toss either way but obviously there are several on here who do.
 
Gates an alternative view.

Lock a gate on private land just once a year and no right of way exists.
Any land that has pathways on it where a right of way exists may face increased objections during planning.

If I had a piece of land that the public walked across, I would find any excuse to put a gate up. Even if I was just a tenant.

Just saying like.
 
I didn't say the counter terrorism unit insisted on anything. It was advice. Advice can be taken and it can be ignored. The danger then is if it ignored and something does go wrong who do you think would shoulder the blame ?
I couldn't give a toss either way but obviously there are several on here who do.
Would you answer a really easy question for me please?

What do you believe this "danger" was? and do you believe that gate stopped such danger? Or are you of the opinion that the Allams are just thick ****s?
 
My thoughts as a regular fan/supporter whatever it’s called nowadays is the fact that it’s has all gone all quite is a positive.
I am sure our Aussie podcaster/ poster can enlighten us all all in his next podcast with his buddy or is it at mate?
I can’t wait.

The continued chip on your shoulder about my location and how that has a bearing on my ability to have an opinion about a takeover will forever be strange.
 
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You seem genuinely aggrieved that people contest the obviously inflammatory stuff you post in defence of the Allams. I don't understand how you don't see it coming.
Mmm interesting .
If you criticise the club you are not a good supporter but you can criticise the Council and the City itself .
Seems like a contradiction to me !
 
Would you answer a really easy question for me please?

What do you believe this "danger" was? and do you believe that gate stopped such danger? Or are you of the opinion that the Allams are just thick ****s?

As I do not work for the anti terrorist services I , like everyone else expertly posting on here, was not privvy to any intelligence they may have had at the time. So it was not my call to make. But at a guess............
The gate prevented one of the main entry points to the stadium and concourse from becoming a public right of way 24/7.
It probably made security of the site a bit easier.
I don't see why people get so up in arms over it. It's there, it's done a job and it didn't cost anyone on here a penny piece to install.
That doesn't mean I agree with it. I dont agree with many of the restrictions that have been imposed on us since 9/11.
I just go to the stadium to watch the football. Perhaps you should try it ? And I'll leave it there for you to worry about all weekend, meanwhile I'm off to Huddersfield.....
 
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As I do not work for the anti terrorist services I , like everyone else expertly posting on here, was not privvy to any intelligence they may have had at the time. So it was not my call to make. But at a guess............
The gate prevented one of the main entry points to the stadium and concourse from becoming a public right of way 24/7.
It probably made security of the site a bit easier.
I don't see why people get so up in arms over it. It's there, it's done a job and it didn't cost anyone on here a penny piece to install.
That doesn't mean I agree with it. I dont agree with many of the restrictions that have been imposed on us since 9/11.
I just go to the stadium to watch the football. Perhaps you should try it ? And I'll leave it there for you to worry about all weekend, meanwhile I'm off to Huddersfield.....
Yes,best leave it to the 'free-streamers' to discuss while you're away enjoying yourself...Extremely selfish if you ask me:emoticon-0103-cool:
 
As I do not work for the anti terrorist services I , like everyone else expertly posting on here, was not privvy to any intelligence they may have had at the time.

Actually, one of us was privy to the advice, that's how they knew there was no letter.

https://www.not606.com/threads/spor...sory-group-meeting-22nd-february-2017.345106/

They squirmed when questioned about this being about a terrorist threat, everybody in the room knew it wasn't about terrorism.
 
Actually, one of us was privy to the advice, that's how they knew there was no letter.

https://www.not606.com/threads/spor...sory-group-meeting-22nd-february-2017.345106/

They squirmed when questioned about this being about a terrorist threat, everybody in the room knew it wasn't about terrorism.


I've absolutely no idea on these things so forgive me if I'm missing something or confusing things here but doesn't this paragraph show it was done following advice ( not questioning if it was the right or best advice or if the gates a good idea or not )

RH questioned whether the threat was significant enough to justify the proposals, PC, who is a counter terrorism officer explained that that the access to the footbridges and general access to the stadium out of hours was identified as requiring action following a counter terrorism threat assessment and the identification of the vulnerabilities were was based upon real life intelligence.
 
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I've absolutely no idea on these things so forgive me if I'm missing something or confusing things here but doesn't this paragraph show it was done following advice ( not questioning if it was the right or best advice or if the gates a good idea or not )

RH questioned whether the threat was significant enough to justify the proposals, PC, who is a counter terrorism officer explained that that the access to the footbridges and general access to the stadium out of hours was identified as requiring action following a counter terrorism threat assessment and the identification of the vulnerabilities were was based upon real life intelligence.
But was there a letter?