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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. kiwiqpr

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  2. Saf

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    I didn't realise that we have one of the highest minimum wages in Europe, already. It's higher than France and Germany.

    I'd say £10 is about right, maybe a touch higher.
     
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    Saf Not606 Godfather+NOT606 Poster of the year 2023

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  4. Stroller

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    They've hit upon a largely unexpected impact of Brexit - labour shortages leading to increased wages - and are pretending that that was what they wanted all along, which is plainly bollocks.
     
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  5. kiwiqpr

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    I don't think you have been paying attention. One of the main reasons for people voting to leave was because cheap foreign labour had started to drive down the wages in this country. Industries such as farming have been getting away for too long importing these workers from the EU and paying less than the minimum wage. HGV drivers were being paid as little as £9 and £10 per hour. These companies are now realising that they can't get away with this and are having to pay British workers proper wages, which they don't want to do. It's a bit of a stand-off now but the companies will simply have to bite the bullet, dry their eyes and cough up.

    Labour shortages was absolutely an expected impact of Brexit.
     
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    A very illuminating investigation by
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    Selective leaks to
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    misrepresentation of facts & a blatant attempt to cause disruption
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    But all the media have participated the British ppl been conned into a panic #Antibrexit forces

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  8. Quite Possibly Raving

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    Guess it depends which Brexit voter you ask. Those in the red wall seats, probably right in what you say. The millions in the home counties? I'm less convinced they were worried about cheap labour. Appreciate there's no way to definitively prove one way or the other...
     
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    Well, it is, err, £4.62 ph more than slave labour :emoticon-0105-wink: But I know what you meant really, and agree with you.
     
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    Amidst all the chaos, incompetence and failure, the Ministry of Truth is functioning perfectly.
     
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    If this was the plan all along, why are we begging the foreign workers to come back? We've recently been flying fruit-pickers in from Barbados, Nepal and the Philippines, and now they're desperately trying to get EU lorry drivers back. We''ll be buying our Christmas turkeys from France and Poland because farmers here can't get workers for their farms. It's not so much about cheap labour as available labour. We don't have enough people to do the jobs.

    British workers getting paid more is welcome, but we're going to very soon see prices rising faster than wages. Rampant inflation is just around the corner, just as the government is cutting Universal Credit by £20 a week. The poorest will be hit hardest as always.
     
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    You’ve lost me
     
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    Who’s gonna serve your coffee in Pret ?
     
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    What is the unemployment rate there at the moment
    Are there no fruit pickers or truck drivers sneaking across on dingies
     
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    That's a good one, well done.
     
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    Well that’s what you seem to be worried about…..time for you lot to get into your head….People aren’t a commodity to be used.
    Times are changing
     
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    It's what a lot of Brexit voters wanted.
     
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    Don't worry, bad pedantry gag.
     
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    But that goes against the Neo-Liberal narrative that all Brexit voters are flag waving knuckle draggers……..(as they wave their flag in support of their Neo-Liberal regime)
     
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    It took me a while but I got it……:).
    The pedant in me would point out that some slaves were in fact paid a wage and I’m assuming that’s where the phrase came from ;)
     
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