Summer transfer rumours

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On the flip side if we are going to bring in Morgan Rogers, I quite like the idea of him spending a few extra weeks training with Pep whilst they wait for Sterling to come back from the Euros.

Same goes for Galbraith training with United's first team.

Good younguns from top academies won't need long settling in periods. Look at Doyle in his debut. Sure it was a friendly but he'd been here about 3 days.
They would likely be with u23s at city not the 1st team. However it's not vital they get 2 weeks with current squads it's vital they integrate with ours. Your right York was a friendly against a lower side. If we put out a team of strangers at start of season results may not be as good and supporters not s forgiving. First impressions usually matter. I'd also hope we'd have some of our own players rather than loan another 6 and be in this position again next year.
 
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What? You've got a funny point of view if you think mentioning the size of the club is talking down to anyone.
I have asked myself why I'm happy with the position we're in. And the answer is "because there's still a long way to go until the end of the transfer window and a lot can happen in that time".
We've 2 weeks until kick off. Every point matters and our record at late signings isn't not good.
 
They would likely be with u23s at city not the 1st team. However it's not vital they get 2 weeks with current squads it's vital they integrate with ours. Your right York was a friendly against a lower side. If we put out a team of strangers at start of season results may not be as good and supporters not s forgiving. First impressions usually matter. I'd also hope we'd have some of our own players rather than loan another 6 and be in this position again next year.

Rogers is training with the first team at City right now. They have hardly any of their first team there remember. He will be working with Pep every day as we speak.

All this is moot of course because we've not even been linked with him.
 
In an ideal world yes. But if we don't have much to spend now, I'd rather we loaned in good players this year and then signed permanent ones when we have a bit more money to spend.
We've drastically culled the playing squad and wage bill and have a 2 billionaires within the club. If we're now claiming were penny less something really is up.
 
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My other counter to the "every point matters" argument.

Lets say we lose 3 points against Wigan because we have no full backs.

We then sign the two best full backs League One has ever seen, and between them they make tonnes of goals and essentially win us games we wouldn't have without them. They could win us 10-15 points later on.

So I completely agree every point matters. A win at Wigan on day 1 is even more important than a win later on, due to the momentum early wins gives you.

BUT I come back to - I'd rather sign an 8/10 player late, that can win us 10-15 points later, than a 6/10 player now that might save us a few points in august.
 
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Rogers is training with the first team at City right now. They have hardly any of their first team there remember. He will be working with Pep every day as we speak.

All this is moot of course because we've not even been linked with him.
Well there you go. May as well talk about any player training at prem level then. Point is they're better off in out club than not if we want them.
 
We've drastically culled the playing squad and wage bill and have a 2 billionaires within the club. If we're now claiming were penny less something really is up.

They want to run us sustainably before they spend. We aren't sustainable yet. I don't agree with their approach, but its the approach they're taking.
 
My other counter to the "every point matters" argument.

Lets say we lose 3 points against Wigan because we have no full backs.

We then sign the two best full backs League One has ever seen, and between them they make tonnes of goals and essentially win us games we wouldn't have without them. They could win us 10-15 points later on.

So I completely agree every point matters. A win at Wigan on day 1 is even more important than a win later on, due to the momentum early wins gives you.

BUT I come back to - I'd rather sign an 8/10 player late, that can win us 10-15 points later, than a 6/10 player now that might save us a few points in august.
Who's to say that'll happen though. Our record of late signings is poor. The whole country know we need players and prices will go up. It'll get harder not easier to sign players.
 
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Who's to say that'll happen though. Our record of late signings is poor. The whole country know we need players and prices will go up. It'll get harder not easier to sign players.

It works both ways. Some players will be harder. Some will be easier. And some that aren't even available now will be available.
 
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I mean I'd rather we were missing out on players because we are setting our standards high, than signing players easily because our standards were low.
I know you what you were saying mate, but Bob is saying missing out, which doesn’t tally on with that. I’d hope we are are setting our standards higher
 
It works both ways. Some players will be harder. Some will be easier. And some that aren't even available now will be available.
So no different overall but less time to complete deals. Bottom line is lj is worried so we should at least be concerned as he knows more than us.
 
I know you what you were saying mate, but Bob is saying missing out, which doesn’t tally on with that. I’d hope we are are setting our standards higher

I get that.

I just mean I'd rather we "missed out" on signing Gabriel from Nott'm Forest because he chooses Blackpool as they're in the championship, than we signed Conor McLaughlin, because no bugger in the championship wanted him.
 
They would likely be with u23s at city not the 1st team. However it's not vital they get 2 weeks with current squads it's vital they integrate with ours. Your right York was a friendly against a lower side. If we put out a team of strangers at start of season results may not be as good and supporters not s forgiving. First impressions usually matter. I'd also hope we'd have some of our own players rather than loan another 6 and be in this position again next year.
You're starting to sound desperate with your continual remarks about the supporters not standing for it. It's almost like you have an agenda. I'm not saying you definitely do have an agenda, mind. I'm sure us Sunderland supporters will give the new owner support and time regardless of how this transfer window plays out.
 
So no different overall but less time to complete deals. Bottom line is lj is worried so we should at least be concerned as he knows more than us.

I'm absolutely ****ting myself. I just don't think anything is anywhere near as final as many are making out.

The season is not over before its started, as many seem to think.