COVID 19 and vaccines

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Ozzymac said:
Far from it mate, i'm very much pro vaccine. My negativity is towards the twats who once vaccinated won't think the rules apply to them anymore
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We've been told the virus is here to stay for a long time now, at least a generation probably.

At what point do we go back to normality the way it was before 2020? It's okay for the older folk but the young kids of today have been well and truly shafted. Is it not about time to tell people to stay at home if they want to remain safe because kids need an education and everybody else needs to be able to live their life freely?
 
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Dancingstripes said:
Remaining cautious means keeping businesses shut, and ruining lives.

Time to move on, it’s cost us 18 months of our lives, but people like you are still demanding more.
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No, people like the medical profession, the scientific community, and even the Prime Minister are saying that we still need to take some precautions. How does it hurt you to wear a mask in public or to maintain social distancing? It doesn't.
 
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The Norton Cat said:
No, people like the medical profession, the scientific community, and even the Prime Minister are saying that we still need to take some precautions. How does it hurt you to wear a mask in public or to maintain social distancing? It doesn't.
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And if you're ugly and smelly it's a double bonus to the community :)
 
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Dancingstripes said:
Be prepared to spend the rest of your life in your own little lockdowns then.

The virus isn’t going to disappear, and wearing your silly gloves and masks will make no difference to you catching it.

And by the way, if you do catch it, the likely hood is you’ll be absolutely fine.

Covid isn’t the only disease or cause of death in the world, there’s a lot lot worse out there.
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Not everyone can afford to ignore the fact that catching covid could be life threatening. I'm cautious not just for my own sake but the 2 people that I spend most of my time with over here are both very vulnerable to being badly affected by covid's symptoms.

My daughter, who is 45, had cancer 3 times in her thirties, twice with women's problems and the third time lung cancer, and she can not afford to be exposed to covid. The wards of The Freeman and The Queen Elizabeth hospital became very familiar to us 10 or so years ago, and I'll do what I can to keep her safe.

Her fiancé had a Pulmonary Embolism this time last year. His family has a history of DVT and it wasn't a nice thing to see a big healthy bloke fighting to breathe. He just had the all clear 2 weeks ago and the last of the blood clots have finally dissipated, so he also can't afford to contract covid. These are the reasons why I will do what I can to stay covid free.

What is silly about wearing disposable gloves? I put a pair on and smother them with hand sanitiser so I feel more comfortable when handling goods in a supermarket, and when I've finished I remove them and sanitise my hands again. Might seem silly to you, but I simply can't afford to get infected and every step that I take lessens that possibility. Not everybody's circumstances are the same.
 
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old lads fan said:
Not everyone can afford to ignore the fact that catching covid could be life threatening. I'm cautious not just for my own sake but the 2 people that I spend most of my time with over here are both very vulnerable to being badly affected by covid's symptoms.

My daughter, who is 45, had cancer 3 times in her thirties, twice with women's problems and the third time lung cancer, and she can not afford to be exposed to covid. The wards of The Freeman and The Queen Elizabeth hospital became very familiar to us 10 or so years ago, and I'll do what I can to keep her safe.

Her fiancé had a Pulmonary Embolism this time last year. His family has a history of DVT and it wasn't a nice thing to see a big healthy bloke fighting to breathe. He just had the all clear 2 weeks ago and the last of the blood clots have finally dissipated, so he also can't afford to contract covid. These are the reasons why I will do what I can to stay covid free.

What is silly about wearing disposable gloves? I put a pair on and smother them with hand sanitiser so I feel more comfortable when handling goods in a supermarket, and when I've finished I remove them and sanitise my hands again. Might seem silly to you, but I simply can't afford to get infected and every step that I take lessens that possibility. Not everybody's circumstances are the same.
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I think the line of argument that remaining cautious somehow makes you pusillanimous is laughable. Of course the restrictions have been unpleasant and no one has wanted to go through that but its been necessary. I think it shows more determination and fortitude to stick to the restrictions than it does to ignore them or complain about them.
 
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The Norton Cat said:
No, people like the medical profession, the scientific community, and even the Prime Minister are saying that we still need to take some precautions. How does it hurt you to wear a mask in public or to maintain social distancing? It doesn't.
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I believe that mask wearing has been a large contributor to the rise in cases.

The one thing that you are guaranteed to do whilst wearing a mask, is touch your face multiple times throughout the course of wearing it... Whatever germs are on your hands are then transferred to your nose, eyes and mouth.


The smallest wave of infections we have had, was when there was no restrictions, no masks, no rules.

The mask wearing, I believe, has played its part in the significant rise in cases, throughout this pandemic.
 
Dancingstripes said:
I believe that mask wearing has been a large contributor to the rise in cases.

The one thing that you are guaranteed to do whilst wearing a mask, is touch your face multiple times throughout the course of wearing it... Whatever germs are on your hands are then transferred to your nose, eyes and mouth.


The smallest wave of infections we have had, was when there was no restrictions, no masks, no rules.

The mask wearing, I believe, has played its part in the significant rise in cases, throughout this pandemic.
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Yep, you're right, that's one of the WHO's concerns with regard to masks. They still recommend wearing them though.
 
The Norton Cat said:
Yep, you're right, that's one of the WHO's concerns with regard to masks. They still recommend wearing them though.
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I didn’t know that was a WHO concern. It just seemed obvious to me.

I never wear a mask, as I believe it’s a danger to my health.
 
Dancingstripes said:
Because it’s not a shock if somebody catches COVID. It’s a world wide disease.
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Yes I know, I caught it on the news.

The shock, as I thought I made clear, is that he works alone outside and cares for his elderly mother so is extremely careful and has had both jabs.

I'd be less surprised if that wasn't the case.
 
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Ozzymac said:
That would explain why all the front line medical workers who probably have a little more knowledge about infectious diseases wear them. They want to increase the danger to themselves <doh>
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They wear them because they are told to wear them.
 
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It's a bit like wearing a condom. It reduces the risk of the girl becoming pregnant and the risk of you paying for it for the rest of your life.

But hey, if you're a risk taker good luck
 
Dancingstripes said:
Did they wear them before being instructed to?
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In some areas of the health service yes. Think about it from another angle. Most health care workers are part of a union. Do you think a union would accept their members wearing a mask if it increased their chances of harm?
 
Just out of interest, will anyone be giving the footy a miss, or are people prepared to risk it ?

From what I can see everything will involve an element of risk from Monday, I suppose people could omit the pub, cafes or whatever and just go to the main event, however, mass gatherings at events are considered a virus driver, not long for folk to decide now. I've always maintained vaccination is the doorway out.
 
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