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I have seen the light brothers and this is the church for me from now on <ok>

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p.s. no touts accepted in this church <ok>
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
What does it imply, then?



It's not semantics.
Creation is not the same as transformation.
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its semantics because you know what the topic is, as you cant answer it you getting pedantic over words.

we are not talking of transformation, if ideed you mean from the biology angle.
The question isnt about cells changing/altering

The question was about origins/creation of the cells not what happened once they appeared

lord of the worldsif you read the tafsir is basically that the Quran recognizes, prophesies even, the existence of other solar systems, planets, and earth-like worlds
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
The thing is, just because we don't currently have an answer, that's not a license to just chuck in any old **** and claim it's true.
You don't have an answer either, you just don't accept that.
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I simply asked the question. didnt 'chuck in' and claimed anything

I answered direct questions, which is not the same thing
neither is what I have said on other threads.
I genuinely wanted to know what athiests 'believed'.
seems they get very uncomfortable
 
thefanwithnoname said:
its semantics because you know what the topic is, as you cant answer it you getting pedantic over words.
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It's clearly not semantics.
Creation implies that something has been created and that there's a creator.
There's no proof of either.

I've openly stated that there's no reliable answer to your question at the moment too, so why would I hide behind semantics?


thefanwithnoname said:
we are not talking of transformation, if ideed you mean from the biology angle.
The question isnt about cells changing/altering

The question was about origins/creation of the cells not what happened once they appeared
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I'm talking about matter and energy changing form.
They cannot be destroyed or created, as far as we know.

thefanwithnoname said:
lord of the worldsif you read the tafsir is basically that the Quran recognizes, prophesies even, the existence of other solar systems, planets, and earth-like worlds
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I'm sure that you have an example of this, then.
 
thefanwithnoname said:
I simply asked the question. didnt 'chuck in' and claimed anything

I answered direct questions, which is not the same thing
neither is what I have said on other threads.
I genuinely wanted to know what athiests 'believed'.
seems they get very uncomfortable
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The atheists on here don't get uncomfortable with your questions, they're annoyed with your implications and apparent ignorance of the science that you dismiss.
As are some of the theists, I may add.
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
It's clearly not semantics.
Creation implies that something has been created and that there's a creator.
There's no proof of either.

This I have clarified. origin/creation whatever. The question is simple how did it all begin from an athiests point of view

I've openly stated that there's no reliable answer to your question at the moment too, so why would I hide behind semantics?

reliable? or any?


I'm talking about matter and energy changing form.
They cannot be destroyed or created, as far as we know.

where did matter come from? that is the question, not what happened once it 'originated'

I'm sure that you have an example of this, then.
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yes, do you read arabic

rabba la ala min - roughly translated means lord of the worlds. The word for worlds means all possible worlds known to exist. in fact the words comes from the root verb "to know". the worlds means different planets, even parallel universes as in the 'many worlds' theory which some physicists seem to like at the moment.


alternatively you could look it up
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
The atheists on here don't get uncomfortable with your questions, they're annoyed with your implications and apparent ignorance of the science that you dismiss.
As are some of the theists, I may add.
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what implications? how have you reached that conclusion
how can I dismiss something which yu yourself have said doesnt currently exist?
 
thefanwithnoname said:
This I have clarified. origin/creation whatever. The question is simple how did it all begin from an athiests point of view
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And yet you went straight back to talking about creation again afterwards, with your next question, which made absolutely no sense without that word.

thefanwithnoname said:
reliable? or any?
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There are plenty of answers.
I don't believe that any of them are reliable, yours included.

thefanwithnoname said:
where did matter come from? that is the question, not what happened once it 'originated'
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Who says that it came from anywhere?
We've no evidence that it's possible to create or destroy matter, so why should we assume that it can be done?

thefanwithnoname said:
yes, do you read arabic
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No.
The Quran wasn't written in the current form of Arabic though, so we'll both have to work with translations, won't we?

thefanwithnoname said:
rabba la ala min - roughly translated means lord of the worlds. The word for worlds means all possible worlds known to exist. in fact the words comes from the root verb "to know". the worlds means different planets, even parallel universes as in the 'many worlds' theory which some physicists seem to like at the moment.
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You really are just making this stuff up now.
Prove this is true.
 
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