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davecg69 said:
What I have read is that the proposed runway extension is unlikely to allow much bigger planes to use the airport, but it WILL allow the current sized ones to take off with a full fuel-load, thus taking more passengers/freight ...... I don’t believe that the smaller Airbus, etc ( like the A320) is much more noisy than those which currently use it. However, I’m also doing some more research, as I still remain unconvinced. The issue is that, if Southampton airport stays as is, more passengers will go from Gatwick/Heathrow (with associated car pollution) and Bournemouth could well be expanded .......
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I was under the impression that the longer runway would allow planes such as the A320, but could be wrong on that.
For me it would be a lost opportunity for the region, in terms of creating jobs on site and for off site businesses associated with the airport.
 
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davecg69 said:
What I have read is that the proposed runway extension is unlikely to allow much bigger planes to use the airport, but it WILL allow the current sized ones to take off with a full fuel-load, thus taking more passengers/freight ...... I don’t believe that the smaller Airbus, etc ( like the A320) is much more noisy than those which currently use it. However, I’m also doing some more research, as I still remain unconvinced. The issue is that, if Southampton airport stays as is, more passengers will go from Gatwick/Heathrow (with associated car pollution) and Bournemouth could well be expanded .......
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Just found this. You are correct, if I read this correctly.


27: How does adding just 164m to the runway allow the airport to increase its passenger numbers?
A: This additional distance will allow the existing aircraft like the A320 to carry more fuel, operate year round and reach further destinations whilst still being able to carry a full passenger load. Allowing larger aircraft to economically operate more routes allows passenger numbers to substantially grow without the equivalent growth in aircraft movements – a more efficient operation.

Full details.

https://www.southamptonairport.com/...-info-sessions-october-qa-master-document.pdf
 
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St Badger said:
Just found this. You are correct, if I read this correctly.


27: How does adding just 164m to the runway allow the airport to increase its passenger numbers?
A: This additional distance will allow the existing aircraft like the A320 to carry more fuel, operate year round and reach further destinations whilst still being able to carry a full passenger load. Allowing larger aircraft to economically operate more routes allows passenger numbers to substantially grow without the equivalent growth in aircraft movements – a more efficient operation.

Full details.

https://www.southamptonairport.com/...-info-sessions-october-qa-master-document.pdf
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Just looked at the map. Presumably the 164m would have to be at the northern end, as the southern end is already close to the M27. Doesn’t that mean it would be a bit too close to the railway sidings?
 
ChilcoSaint said:
Just looked at the map. Presumably the 164m would have to be at the northern end, as the southern end is already close to the M27. Doesn’t that mean it would be a bit too close to the railway sidings?
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I think the extension pretty much goes up to the border, but I don’t think (might have missed it if it has) that the proximity to the railway sidings has been raised as a concern.
 
A link to a petition against the anti protest laws.
Probably won’t make any difference but I signed it anyway.
Just a thought but what is to stop someone, living near a football ground, when crowds return, complaining about the noise from the football stadium and asking the police to disperse the crowd as they find the noise annoying?
Not a protesting crowd, but hey, annoyance is annoyance.


https://secure.greenpeace.org.uk/pa...F_CCQ97s8zpiWlIGsK8kywiDQ5t2eTClmlY8Be7lDtsXs
 
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St Badger said:
A link to a petition against the anti protest laws.
Probably won’t make any difference but I signed it anyway.
Just a thought but what is to stop someone, living near a football ground, when crowds return, complaining about the noise from the football stadium and asking the police to disperse the crowd as they find the noise annoying?
Not a protesting crowd, but hey, annoyance is annoyance.


https://secure.greenpeace.org.uk/page/s/the-right-to-protest?source=FB&subsource=NBRENAPEFB04AY&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=The right to protest PE 20210316&fbclid=IwAR1LPN8zaHgY_SaFVg9sxhppNQa-T2f9FNxakhPobaVSKR3L-xgEoK0nmiM_aem_AeA-DPK8g9Ga6v7gfW6jUXSGf2FlMIRmS2mKjmhA4fAg49tjg3mHOZ5sasm2Jj20b_sY2W3weQktS_8lh-KSzWF_CCQ97s8zpiWlIGsK8kywiDQ5t2eTClmlY8Be7lDtsXs
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Done
 
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St Badger said:
A link to a petition against the anti protest laws.
Probably won’t make any difference but I signed it anyway.
Just a thought but what is to stop someone, living near a football ground, when crowds return, complaining about the noise from the football stadium and asking the police to disperse the crowd as they find the noise annoying?
Not a protesting crowd, but hey, annoyance is annoyance.


https://secure.greenpeace.org.uk/page/s/the-right-to-protest?source=FB&subsource=NBRENAPEFB04AY&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=The right to protest PE 20210316&fbclid=IwAR1LPN8zaHgY_SaFVg9sxhppNQa-T2f9FNxakhPobaVSKR3L-xgEoK0nmiM_aem_AeA-DPK8g9Ga6v7gfW6jUXSGf2FlMIRmS2mKjmhA4fAg49tjg3mHOZ5sasm2Jj20b_sY2W3weQktS_8lh-KSzWF_CCQ97s8zpiWlIGsK8kywiDQ5t2eTClmlY8Be7lDtsXs
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Thanks for posting, I support Greenpeace so I already signed this. I meant to share it here but forgot!
 
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A Brexit bonus for unscrupulous employers. Fire and rehire on worse terms.

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I'm sure some will accuse me of deliberate ignorance or lighting the touch paper I think I've also had, but how is the British Gas thing related to brexit, I cant work it out.

I've disliked BG for a while, this gives me another reason to dislike them, but didnt understand the Brexit link.
 
fatletiss said:
I’d guess due to not having to follow EU employment laws???
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Yeah wondered that, but I thought there were lots of EU rules that many countries didnt follow to the letter of the law.

Anyhow, not going to drag it on, just wondered.
 
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On the Andrew Marr show, Sunday, he showed the front page of every newspaper, most of which were, in some way, praising the government.
Well, when I say ALL the newspapers, he kept the Sunday Mirror hidden beneath the Telegraph and didn’t show it, presumably because it led with the Jennifer Arcuri exclusive about her affair with Johnson.
And to think that there are some people who still think that the BBC isn’t biased towards the government and still trot out that old cliche about the BBC being full of lefties.
 
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