That's 'Sauces' Mr H. Have you ever tried Saracha? My spelling of that will be terrible, but you can work it out.
No McCann replacement please
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WhooshThat's 'Sauces' Mr H. Have you ever tried Saracha? My spelling of that will be terrible, but you can work it out.
Depends on how you define 'gatekeepers' and indeed failure.
There's a sliding scale of success or failure I guess, and however good your 'gatekeeper' (sic) is, then they're not gonna stop 100% of the arrows from getting through. As far as "failure" is concerned then we're in L1 for a reason and the failure starts at the very top.
I'm interested to know where you think the line is here.
I've been critical of the team this season, definitely more vocally than written down on forums or social media.
And whilst I would never resort to abuse, I do often write that I believe the team is performing poorly or isn't playing to the standard that I would expect.
I don't believe that you should sugarcoat your opinions for fear of someone reading it and it knocking their confidence, as I think that's not my responsibility to manage that problem and in some players it'll spur them to prove me wrong.
On the other hand, I do appreciate that the more negativity you read, it can affect you. I get that on a daily basis in my job, but you just have to accept that people have different opinions.
But there is a level of respect needed. I have been greatly concerned about some of the things being said (Tom Eaves should break his neck, some of the slurs to Grant McCann) and the way they have crossed the line from criticism to abuse. This needs to stop.
It will do when he resigns and we get a manager capable of coaching probably the strongest group of players in the league into a cohesive team.
Players/staff do read forums, they're often well aware of what fans think and get told as such via social media. That doesn't mean people can't voice those opinions online. They're human beings, they have the same emotional response to things as everybody else does and being in the spotlight comes with the job.
Liam Rosenior used to come into my old place of work and we used to chat about all sorts and it wasn't until I left that job that I realised that what I said to players didn't actually differ to what I say online because I try my best to be objective. He never once said I was out of order for asking why we'd got hammered by Birmingham or why a certain player was underperforming, but his responses did inform my attitude of why such things can happen and that helped my understanding of the professional game and how it works. It cannot be said how nice of a bloke he is, or how deep his knowledge of football is.
I know three people very well who are currently employed by the club; one works full time in the coaching department, one in the press office and one a player and yeah, they read forums, but they know we aren't professionals so they don't take our criticisms to heart. If anybody from outside your profession criticised you in your job without having done it, you'd think the same, so it's not as though what we say on here is taken seriously by anybody at the club unless it constitutes a threat or immediate danger to another person. It might piss them off a bit if it get personal, but it isn't like it shapes their game; they don't go out at 3pm on a Saturday worrying about scoring because me or Quill said they weren't playing well. They don't picture the avatars of those who slagged them off as the ball comes in and collapse in a PTSD style manner on the deck.
This is a fan's forum, it's a place where fans can get together and discuss Hull City. It's not going to be all sunshine and rainbows and those who come on here know that, nobody approaches a forum thinking it's going to be pages and pages of how great the club is.
Liam Rosenior used to come into my old place of work and we used to chat about all sorts and it wasn't until I left that job that I realised that what I said to players didn't actually differ to what I say online because I try my best to be objective. He never once said I was out of order for asking why we'd got hammered by Birmingham or why a certain player was underperforming, but his responses did inform my attitude of why such things can happen and that helped my understanding of the professional game and how it works. It cannot be said how nice of a bloke he is, or how deep his knowledge of football is.
I know three people very well who are currently employed by the club; one works full time in the coaching department, one in the press office and one a player and yeah, they read forums, but they know we aren't professionals so they don't take our criticisms to heart. If anybody from outside your profession criticised you in your job without having done it, you'd think the same, so it's not as though what we say on here is taken seriously by anybody at the club unless it constitutes a threat or immediate danger to another person. It might piss them off a bit if it get personal, but it isn't like it shapes their game; they don't go out at 3pm on a Saturday worrying about scoring because me or Quill said they weren't playing well. They don't picture the avatars of those who slagged them off as the ball comes in and collapse in a PTSD style manner on the deck.
This is a fan's forum, it's a place where fans can get together and discuss Hull City. It's not going to be all sunshine and rainbows and those who come on here know that, nobody approaches a forum thinking it's going to be pages and pages of how great the club is.
Dean Windass used to get "YOU FAT BASTARD",(obviously from the opposition fans).
I used clench my fist and say "YES" good lads. Because it seemed every time they chanted that he'd score!
I used clench my fist and say "YES" good lads. Because it seemed every time they chanted that he'd score!
I guess where to draw the line is always going to be subjective, but when it becomes detrimental to confidence and the wellbeing of the club then that's hardly a show of support.
Reading some comments I wonder whether some of the highly vocal critics would rather the club or certain players fail to just to be proven right.
I agree for the most part, but let's not forget a seasoned pro like LR was when he was chatting to you, is much more likely to not be effected by online opinions and slatting by fans etc compared to a young player who is still very raw and potentially a lot more mentally weak / influenced by others opinions and views ( if that's the right way if writing it ) also a player who is more of a confidence based player will be more likely to be effected by it etc.. there's lots of variables that come in to play and all I'll say is that it does effect some more then others just as it would in our places of work etc.
I don't think anyone is advocating that, but there's a way to discuss an opinion without crossing the line into borderline abuse.
Perhaps we should start calling Eavsey a fat bastard?
You've got **** shoes, ya ****ty shoe bastard!
When I win the Euromillions on Tuesday and buy City, after changing the colours to red and black to represent both sides of the city and changing the name to Kingston United to reflect this initiative, you will be the first I consult about a new manager.
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They don't have to sack him. If we go up, they'll keep him. If we don't, they just won't renew his contract at the end of the season and he'll go without them having to pay compensation.
