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Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by Red Robin, Feb 16, 2021.

  1. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure he'll manage to underwhelm us all again...……….
     
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  2. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker
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    I notice Ashton has disappeared up his own arsehole again, SL came out with a verbal blast on Monday, Tuesday Dean Holden ditched because of failure, Wednesday not a syllable yet from our CEO, the dust will settle and we will see him sliding out of the darkness to reappear and assume his role.
     
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  3. Red Robin

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    I do wonder if he is next to go.

    SL cannot be happy with him on a number of issues,
     
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  4. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    Did you hear SL on sound of the City, I’d be very surprised if MA goes anywhere, our best hope is his role is sufficiently changed to allow a manager to be appointed to deal with football side in f the club, and leave MA to deal with negotiations etc
     
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  5. Redprintt

    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    Holden must wonder why he was sacked after only losing 6 on the bounce.
    Contrast that with Junior losing EIGHT on the bounce (a BCFC record and coincidently the same club record he also holds at Barnsley) and yet rewarded with an extension to his contract.

    It's a funny old world.
     
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  6. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    Because most under LJ were close games and the feeling was, he would turn it around.which of course he did!!!....didn't feel that with Deano's setup. Ever!!
     
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  7. Redprintt

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    <laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  8. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    I disagree with that.....(I know you're still hanging on to what LJ left us, you can't help yourself) <laugh>
    We have some good players and I believe with a few decent loans and with the right coach in place....I still feel we have what could be a decent side.
    The sell for Ashton would be the need to have reassurance that the new coach will have full control of team affairs and full say of the players brought in..
     
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  9. Redprintt

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    Cap fits..... <laugh>
     
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  10. Jiffie

    Jiffie Well-Known Member

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    I still believe that the appointment of Holden was another cynical cheap ploy to see us through this seasons unusual circumstances of lack of revenue and review it again once the season ended and they were in a position to see where we were in the summer, hence the 12 month roll over.

    The squad was in desperate need of a quality overhaul, what was funded was half hearted at best, only Martin can be seen as an upgrade, but the area that needed the most quality overhaul was the midfield and knowing the 'alleged' severity of Walsh's injury before a ball was kicked and Williams 'first day injury', it was decided to make do AGAIN. The decision not to bring in a left wing back in January to me shows how dysfunctional our club actually is.

    Brunt was a shocking signing, luckily for us he was a rare animal in the football world, he had integrity and self respect and instead of taking the money with no chance of playing for the rest of his contract he retired. Sadly I fear as I did upon signing him that Lansbury is yet another poor signing, the guy has an ego the size of Texas, a player living off former glories, he was shocking last night and has been so since he arrived and the way he treats referees is a disgrace, the Cardiff game he should have been sent off, booked again last night and should have been booked earlier and again his reaction when coming off should have resulted in 2nd yellow and not 1st that it was. The sum total for us is one good free kick and 2 yellows.

    In midfield I feel desperately sorry for Bakinson, he is going to be a top player, but he is young and needs the guidance of a Bannonesque type player, there is absolutely no leadership in midfield.

    The club needs a totally new approach, starting off with transfer business, it is clear that our current system and whatever the truth of who does or does not have the last say in signings AIN'T WORKING and neither is APPOINTING CHEAP OPTION MANAGERS.

    So here's what I think, go for somebody with pedigree, not somebody like John Terry or others mentioned, Pearson might be the man IMHO and use the inducement of a bonus on retaining our championship status.
     
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  11. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    Ha ha, I know your game RP......Had we been in the top 2 with Deano, It would have been all about how bad LJ was as a coach, but because it all went downhill, it's all about the players he left us...................either way, in your eyes.........LJ would have been a fault.........because you hate him that much :emoticon-0172-mooni:emoticon-0172-mooni<laugh>
     
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    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    I agree with all of that except Pearson.........wouldn't last 5 minutes
     
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  13. Jiffie

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    Sadly he is right, I gave you my list of players who have failed to find consistency some have been here a while and some were totally cheap punts from the lower divisions, many of this squad were poor during LJ's annual disastrous run up to his sacking and remain so.
     
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  14. Jiffie

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    Why exactly?
     
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  15. Supcon72

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    Give it a rest RP, in that run, we were scoring goals, still playing OK, and very unlucky in a number of those games. Those that know football know we were not a bad side then. Contrast that to now, we are lucky if we get 1 shot on target per game, you can't win if you aren't capable of at least creating chances to score, that is the key difference. Had we been playing well, creating chances, but still losing, I don't think DH would have got the bullet yesterday, SL would have given him more time.
     
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  16. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    Loses his rag too quickly, hence why he struggles to keep keep any job down since his days at Leicester......No way will he get on with the suits at our club.
    Along with that...I just don't rate him..
     
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  17. Jiffie

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    Yeah, of course he actually does have real achievements on his CV promotions, championships, play offs unlike our last 2 ex managers, Yes he may have a short fuse but so do many successful managers.

    He also has integrity, by standing up to owners, like the Mandaric who tried to screw up Leicester as a club and is much too blame for Sheff Weds woes, which is just what this club needs, he even fell out with Derby owner Morris who was using drones to spy on opponents training.

    He stabilised Hull who were going down before his arrival before he went back to Leicester to get them into the prem where I believe that they have some success and Jesus Christ himself would end up getting sacked by Watford.

    I did say the club needed a totally new approach, if it works, it's up to the suits to get on with him not so much him getting on with them.

    But hey let's make room in the kennel for the next poodle and of course it has to be Ashton's bitch.
     
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  18. Jiffie

    Jiffie Well-Known Member

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    Come on that was happening in the run up to LJ's sacking, in fact didn't we go 2 and a half games without a shot of any description during that run?
     
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  19. Supcon72

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    Which run? RP was referencing the 8 games lost on the bounce? Come the end of that season in 2016-17 when we lost all those games, we still scored 60 goals, whereas; right now we have 29 goals from 30 games, not even a goal a game.... There is no contrast, it's just LJ beating from him, again......
     
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  20. Jiffie

    Jiffie Well-Known Member

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    The contrast is you are arguing about 2016/2017 (a period when even Henri Lansbury was still a very good player) I am talking about January 2018 onwards, where we got worse and worse in very painful increments, goals dried up and chances even more so, where we are now is a direct result of the total mismanagement by the club since that date and the form leading up to LJ's sacking was I will admit not quite as bad as it is now but it was pretty close, weak, slow, predictable, non creative and **** to watch, it is absolutely no wonder that over 3 years on we are where we are.

    As others are allowed to speculate on what would have happened, my speculation is if they hadn't have sacked LJ when they did, he would have been gone by now.
     
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