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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

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  2. Get out

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  1. Willhoops

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    You have now become boring Will. We started off with Farage and you seemed to have turned the debate in to a BLM rally.
    When you look at the tw2ts who have been knighted or become Lord this and that it’s laughable. Olly Robbins who was a Brexit failure and colluded with the EU is now a Sir yet Nigel Farage who has been probably the most influential politician in many years gets snubbed? Still let’s give a knighthood to some five minute wonder.
     
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    In actual fact according to the judgement, TFL have no right to appeal.
    They are applying to the Court of Appeal for leave to appeal i.e. permission to allow TFL to lodge an appeal.

    Some of the schemes are dangerous to pedestrians, motorists and even cyclists. It's a money-making scam from Khan. In addition, there are a series of cameras catching motorists with temporary restrictions all in the name of Covid. Only problem now is that we the taxpayer will be forking out for the restrictions to be scrapped and the bollards/cones to be removed.
     
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    Labour announces that it will make more housing announcements this year
    Luke Malpass05:00, Jan 22 2021
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    OPINION: It was very much business as usual for the well oiled Labour machine in its first public outing of the year – a caucus retreat in Nelson. The Prime Minister kicked off the year by giving her team a pep talk while also delivering a stern warning about how tough Covid was going to continue to make life difficult.

    Then she and most of her top tier ministers – Grant Robertson, Chris Hipkins and Megan Woods – trooped out to the Nelson suburb of Richmond to show off a new well-built row of Kainga Ora state houses.

    While there she reannounced the fact that the Government was building loads of new state houses, but it has now also made decisions and produced some promotional material about where they will all go. Labour has identified nine areas of urgent need where the building will be focussed – all in the North Island.

    Then Ardern announced when the rest of the Government’s housing announcements this year will be.


    READ MORE:
    * Government forecasts five years of big house price growth but there is some good news
    * Coronavirus: Government to deliver 'rainy day' Budget for the ages today
    * Andrew Little: Time for excuses over, time to build houses

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    BRADEN FASTIER / STUFF/Nelson Mail
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and key Labour MPs visits a Kainga Ora home in Richmond, during the away Labour Caucus in Nelson.
    By Late February, there will be announcements on proposed demand-side measures that the Treasury has been busily working on. Robertson also confirmed on that the Government expects to respond to the Reserve Bank’s suggestions for extra tools to cool the housing market (such as through debt-to-income ratios).


    In February the Government will also announce “high-level” decisions around the Resource Management Act and expects to have an exposure draft of the first Bill released in May

    In May the Budget will also contain “further measures to address supply”.

    Then in July the National Policy Statement on urban development that requires councils to do a stocktake on available land kicks in.

    It is testament to the political nightmare this issue has now become, that Labour feels the need to do an announcement on future announcements. Its political purpose is to reassure the public that work is in fact being done.

    In the meantime, Labour likes to conflate its public housing building programme with the broader issue of house prices. State houses are about providing houses for those on limited means, while house prices are about Kiwis – and first time homebuyers in particular – ability to buy a house.

    And, Labour could be forgiven for feeling a bit hard done by: the underlying conditions that have created last year's 20 per cent house price increases have been created by successive Government of both stripes and then exacerbated by Covid-19.

    But one of Labour’s key election promises in 2017 was to boost housing supply, in part building 100,000 private houses over 10 years through Kiwibuild. Nothing close to that materialised.

    Practically, it is very difficult to see what measures Labour can take that will ease house price rises in the near term, unless its “demand-side” measures are Draconian. Managing demand would realistically have to involve rationing credit in some way, or simply barring some people (say property investors who own more than two homes) from buying houses for a set period of time until things cool off.

    But neither of these options are ideal and each carries political risks for Labour.

    Increasing supply – generally considered to be the real structural solution – will take years to have a significant impact to stabilise price rises.

    2021 is shaping up as the political year of the house.

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    Not sure what the issue is really. He runs London he should be able to do what he wants to the London public spaces.
     
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    anything he wants
     
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    You offering yourself to khan kiwi? <whistle>
     
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    He has to act within the law, he hasn't quite got the gist of it yet...
     
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    I only had a quick read but all he's done is changed the roads so there's bike lanes and closed some roads off. To be honest where i live they added bus lanes and traffics got **** for cars but if he's reducing pollution and just changing the city roads i don't see the problem.

    Just taxi drivers moaning about their trade (well i saw it was there Union or something) as congestion will affect them. I guess everyone has a say in this country. Why things like new house building is a struggle and other things. I hate beauracracy myself even if i understand some of it needs to be around
     
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    No problem if there's consultation and a majority want it but there's been none. I live in a road that is part of a LTN, before the closures it was a quiet side road but now is a rat run for traffic trying to dodge huge jams on the main roads nearby. Pollution on the main roads has increased and other roads become jammed at busy times, the only plan the council had was that traffic would reduce as people became so fed up with the congestion but before this lockdown it was as bad as ever.

    Emergency services throughout London have been severely affected by both congestion and various road closures needing long detours, if you don't live in London you really have little idea of how f*cked up traffic is throughout...
     
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    What does “this week’s orange” mean? Google suggested nothing.
     
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    When did I say it was BLM ? I’m yet to understand why people have such objections to a British born sportsman who has achieved more than any other in his field a knighthood when others don’t meet such anger. I’ve shown and you confirmed the living abroad and not paying U.K tax on all their earnings is an attempt to mislead, I’ve demonstrated that it can’t be that others have been active in social issues, so it can’t be that unless you consider anti racism, which I can’t believe, is a bad thing so what is it and why all this deception. It seems very odd.

    Time will tell on Farage if he was a force for good or not, just because you think so doesn’t make it so. there have been a lot of influential politicians over the years who you’d never consider for honours, and remember this man was successfully sued for defamation against a group called hope not hate!!
     
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    According to Ellers. Anyone who shows any interest in social and societal issues doesn’t really care and just jumps on the latest bandwagon, a good example of this would be Major Tom and the NHS. As helping and appreciating the NHS was the new orange.
     
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    Oh. Weird phrase still.

    The government could try not doing **** things to create bandwagons to jump onto.
     
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    The fish king has spoken.

     
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    Oh my god our resident activist is on a yoghurt knitting exercise. Stop talking utter tosh.
    Many people have been knighted for doing nothing, in fact I noticed you avoided the failures of Oliver Robbins and his collusion’s with EU officials? Funny that? You are also against Nigel Farage receiving one. Who by the way is probably the most influential political figure in this country in the last 20 years. You say they are many influential figures over the years that haven’t received one... name one that has been more influential than him?
    You are also trying to turn this debate in to something to do with race which it nothing to do with. Throw in two white names and if they are hypocritical has Hamilton then I will say the same.
    Silly lefty.
     
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