KLP - Ehab strikes again

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Drew said:
I don't agree, I thought Clark looked promising, made mistakes but was doing OK.

Regardless, he's improved since he left us and could have made us some money, which would probably have paid off Kingsley's contract and more.

Yes its risk v reward but as it stands we aren't taking the risk and therefore not getting the reward.
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We received 400 grand apparently
No complaints from me there
Good luck to him but he wasn’t much cop for us
And pay off kingsleys contract??? Seriously have a word
 
Chazz Rheinhold said:
We received 400 grand apparently
No complaints from me there
Good luck to him but he wasn’t much cop for us
And pay off kingsleys contract??? Seriously have a word
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Clark is worth more than 400 grand now and probably was at the time. We bought Coyle for 350k, Clark has more potential.

And if you do sell him, you can get a sell-on clause from his next transfer.

Say we sold him a year later for 800k, which isn't a huge sum. You put a 10% sell on clause in and he matures to be a £2m player (I can't imagine a Premier League club paying much less, especially when an agent can play on links with Liverpool) you get another 200k.

That's a million you can get with pretty achievable figures involved, and who knows what might happen in the future? Look at Harry Maguire, who thought he'd go for £80m after we sold him?

Yes it'll work on some players and it won't work on others, but as I say, if you never take the risk, you never get the reward and you just end up chucking opportunities away, if you want to grow at some point you've got to try, otherwise you'll never get another Bowen.
 
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I think it’s important to recognise that this situation is affecting our form on the pitch. I said in a MDT two or three weeks ago that it seemed the cohesion and spirit in the squad had evaporated a bit. I think we now know why.

How many more poor performances is Ehab willing to tolerate in order to hammer home whatever point he is trying to make? Three tough games left this year, we have a squad operating at 95% when only 100% will do when you are competing at the top. Can we afford to kiss away those three games while the latest high pissing contest continues?

Plus, we will presumably now lose KLP from the bench now. Seems impractical for him to be selected given what’s been said.
 
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Plum said:
Begs the question does Ehab care if we don't get promoted, if he can run with a league 1 wage bill and make his money selling players?
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From his business perspective, he possibly saw no resolution to the problem of falling gates, and the reduced income that comes as a consequence, which leaves the option being to reduce costs, where the biggest one is liable to be players wages.
 
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AlRawdah said:
I think it’s important to recognise that this situation is affecting our form on the pitch. I said in a MDT two or three weeks ago that it seemed the cohesion and spirit in the squad had evaporated a bit. I think we now know why.

How many more poor performances is Ehab willing to tolerate in order to hammer home whatever point he is trying to make? Three tough games left this year, we have a squad operating at 95% when only 100% will do when you are competing at the top. Can we afford to kiss away those three games while the latest high pissing contest continues?

Plus, we will presumably now lose KLP from the bench now. Seems impractical for him to be selected given what’s been said.
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I agree, I also feel this is affecting the team, they all stick together and talk amongst each other if they feel one of their team mates is not being fairly treated it's going to affect moral.
 
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Drew said:
Clark is worth more than 400 grand now and probably was at the time. We bought Coyle for 350k, Clark has more potential.

And if you do sell him, you can get a sell-on clause from his next transfer.

Say we sold him a year later for 800k, which isn't a huge sum. You put a 10% sell on clause in and he matures to be a £2m player (I can't imagine a Premier League club paying much less, especially when an agent can play on links with Liverpool) you get another 200k.

That's a million you can get with pretty achievable figures involved, and who knows what might happen in the future? Look at Harry Maguire, who thought he'd go for £80m after we sold him?

Yes it'll work on some players and it won't work on others, but as I say, if you never take the risk, you never get the reward and you just end up chucking opportunities away, if you want to grow at some point you've got to try, otherwise you'll never get another Bowen.
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I also liked Max Clark and felt he was developing well. Leo obviously thought so, and he has been very good in Holland, as I've followed his progress there and has done well.

IMO, he would probably be in the team now, as we wouldn't have bought Elder.
 
Not going quite so well for Clark at the moment, in the last year of his deal, no new deal offered and can't currently make the squad...

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John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. said:
I also liked Max Clark and felt he was developing well. Leo obviously thought so, and he has been very good in Holland, as I've followed his progress there and has done well.

IMO, he would probably be in the team now, as we wouldn't have bought Elder.
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Not a patch on elder
originallambrettaman said:
Not going quite so well for Clark at the moment, in the last year of his deal, no new deal offered and can't currently make the squad...

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You can prove anything with facts

strange Liverpool were after him not so long back
Shirley not an agent desperate for a deal any deal for him

saying that I hope he gets fixed up somewhere
Just not for us
 
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Ric Glasgow said:
Wouldn't it be more financially prudent to push for promotion this season and attempt to sell the Club as a going concern in the Championship?
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Ehab would need to spend a lot of money to make us a going concern in the Championship.
 
Plum said:
Ehab would need to spend a lot of money to make us a going concern in the Championship.
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I agree entirely but getting out of this division would make it feasible.My whole point is,and it's up for debate,are we a more attractive buy in this division or the Championship? I'd like a new owner of our Club too because things can't continue with the rift between the Allams and a large number of our supporters(that's a 2 way thing and something that must end).I believe under new ownership and obviously with serious cash injection we can be a force again....Things aren't going well at the Club,we've become something of a laughing stock and the quicker it's resolved to everyone's satisfaction the better.
 
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The Omega Man said:
Bit one sided this.

So let’s even the debate up. My post is intended to demonstrate that we don’t know what has happened and that maybe, we should consider another view.

KLP: I like him as a player and from when I met him as a person. He has an agent who pushed us for large increase. KLP knows the club, how it would react and how it treats players. He knows how McCann deals with players who want better terms than their teammates get. He isn’t Bowen and is only just beyond the development stage. He will not get regular starts in a Championship side.
That said he does want to play for City and when he comes on, he is fully committed.

McCann: He has perhaps the biggest naughty step in football. His mantra appears to be; being committed isn’t enough, to play for me, you have to be fully committed or you lose your place.

Ehab: Sets his position in stone and will not move from it. He sets a budget and is committed to it. This includes reviewing player values and keeping a firm hand on spending. Great when it gets us out of a financial hole, but very difficult in a team sport to manage. We never see his man management skills and so assume he has none.

The team: They must feel “here we go again” . Jordy is the new Where’s Wally. Do they sign a contact only to see another player get a better deal, just because their agent pushes harder for one and think “bollocks”. Or do they look at the player and say “greedy bastard?”
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He will not get regular starts in a Championship side.
Really? He's still learning but I'm sure I've seen many worse players in the Championship. Some of them have even played for City too.
 
Ric Glasgow said:
I agree entirely but getting out of this division would make it feasible.My whole point is,and it's up for debate,are we a more attractive buy in this division or the Championship? I'd like a new owner of our Club too because things can't continue with the rift between the Allams and a large number of our supporters(that's a 2 way thing and something that must end).I believe under new ownership and obviously with serious cash injection we can be a force again....Things aren't going well at the Club,we've become something of a laughing stock and the quicker it's resolved to everyone's satisfaction the better.
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The same was said about the prem. Aren't we a better proposition in that league, more saleable, than being a Championship club?
 
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