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it would seem that now the club have had time to seek advice that 'nothing untoward' has taken place otherwise the EFL could (and most likely would) hit us with sanctions.

this would make even more of a mockery that a club, with confirmed covid cases, following guidelines with players going into self isolation, were given no help or felt they were left with no other choice but to play the game putting more players and those from wimbledon into a possible dangerous position where the only really safe option was to allow the game to be called off with no threat of sanctions.

obviously there is the fact that some may feel the need to cheat and get an extra day off with 8 games a month, but there is also the fact that they will have to fit those missed games in at some point adding games to what would have been a quiet month (ie: no win situation) in an already shortened season.
 
This whole threat of sanctions to me seems odd. It feels like we are applying pre covid processes in a covid world. By that I mean not fulfilling a fixture historically in football carried penalties unless agreed in advance, and this was across all levels of the game. I am struggling to imagine a scenario where a positive case and resulting self-isolation could not be deemed a valid reason. Even if someone had breached rules and guidelines and that was identified could it ever be certain that was the cause of the outbreak?

I realise this is entirely different but I am involved in grassroots. This season we have postponed more than half the scheduled games so far due to covid reasons. The league this season just accept that is acceptable and rescedule. I had an opposition team not fulfil due to player registration issues and there was an investigation and I got a 3-0 win (even though I wrote a letter in support of them asking we be allowed to play). I suppose the point I am making is the investigations and sanctions are not being used when covid is involved, but we still do it for traditional reasons. I just wonder whether we need to remove the threat of sanctions and make decisions without that sort of pressure.
 
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Vincemac said:
Tag @Gordon Armstrong
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He’s not the only mod vince :)

sadly I’m in the hospital at the moment as my son might have broken his foot!!! Certainly can’t do it on my phone but will have a look tomorrow if I get chance.
I’m not (for what it’s worth) moving individual posts from other threads. Not even sure that can be done. And if the other threads aren’t solely about COVID then they shouldn’t be merged

edit... or, in short, what Gordon said!!!
 
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FellTop said:
This whole threat of sanctions to me seems odd. It feels like we are applying pre covid processes in a covid world. By that I mean not fulfilling a fixture historically in football carried penalties unless agreed in advance, and this was across all levels of the game. I am struggling to imagine a scenario where a positive case and resulting self-isolation could not be deemed a valid reason. Even if someone had breached rules and guidelines and that was identified could it ever be certain that was the cause of the outbreak?

I realise this is entirely different but I am involved in grassroots. This season we have postponed more than half the scheduled games so far due to covid reasons. The league this season just accept that is acceptable and rescedule. I had an opposition team not fulfil due to player registration issues and there was an investigation and I got a 3-0 win (even though I wrote a letter in support of them asking we be allowed to play). I suppose the point I am making is the investigations and sanctions are not being used when covid is involved, but we still do it for traditional reasons. I just wonder whether we need to remove the threat of sanctions and make decisions without that sort of pressure.
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Seemingly the EFL, today, advised that SAFC wouldn’t have faced any punishment. Shows the EFL for the arseholes they are if they can somehow make that decision 24 hours after they couldn’t make it!! Bunch of ****ing amateurs.
 
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marcusblackcat said:
He’s not the only mod vince :)

sadly I’m in the hospital at the moment as my son might have broken his foot!!! Certainly can’t do it on my phone but will have a look tomorrow if I get chance.
I’m not (for what it’s worth) moving individual posts from other threads. Not even sure that can be done. And if the other threads aren’t solely about COVID then they shouldn’t be merged

edit... or, in short, what Gordon said!!!
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I know mate
Hope the lads ok
 
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On RTG just seen a post saying the outbreak is from the bus driver coming back from the Lincoln game.
 
SAFC2403 said:
On RTG just seen a post saying the outbreak is from the bus driver coming back from the Lincoln game.
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Whilst that could be true, I’ve seen and heard a few conspiracy theories rolling around saying it was bus driver, players not adhering and even players partners having affairs!! No idea what to believe but it could be anything with this virus!
 
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marcusblackcat said:
Whilst that could be true, I’ve seen and heard a few conspiracy theories rolling around saying it was bus driver, players not adhering and even players partners having affairs!! No idea what to believe but it could be anything with this virus!
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Sounds like an episode of dream team that was on sky years ago!
 
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marcusblackcat said:
Whilst that could be true, I’ve seen and heard a few conspiracy theories rolling around saying it was bus driver, players not adhering and even players partners having affairs!! No idea what to believe but it could be anything with this virus!
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Yep 100 percent. You can take all the precautions possible, always an element of potluck though, especially in wintertime. More people coughing and spluttering, more people out at the shops for Christmas etc. Transmission from droplets is probably at it's peak around now. I've been wiping everything down that comes in from outside since the weather started getting colder. Just wish I could chop the wifes legs off, she is fcuking useless at decontamination drills.
 
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SAFC2403 said:
Sounds like an episode of dream team that was on sky years ago!
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<laugh> I remember that - with Carla off Corry!!! (No I don't watch Corry before anyone starts! Wife does though - and she was sexy as hell as Linda in Dream Team!!)

What got me about it was the fact that there was never a swear word!! In a professional, premier league football team no one ever swore!!! So realistic
 
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On RTG just seen a post saying the outbreak is from the bus driver coming back from the Lincoln game.
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Not sure they all would have been ill and testing positive so soon after being in his company.
 
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Norman Stanley Fletcher said:
Some coincidences starting to happen here with the beginning of the Bob Stokoe reign.

Bob took over the in first week in December 1972. Lee Johnson did

Bob lost his first game, at home 1-0 . Lee Johnson did

In the winter of 1972, Sunderland had a flu epidemic run through the club which led to several games ( can't remember how many exactly ) being postponed. When it cleared up we had we were well down the league but had lots of games in hand on all the other teams. In the winter of 2020 we have this Covid situation with games being postponed.

When we started playing again we went on a fantastic run and ended up winning the Cup. In 2021 we will..............not win the cup obviously! - but could win the league.

Just a thought!!!
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I love thoughts <ok>
 
FellTop said:
This whole threat of sanctions to me seems odd. It feels like we are applying pre covid processes in a covid world. By that I mean not fulfilling a fixture historically in football carried penalties unless agreed in advance, and this was across all levels of the game. I am struggling to imagine a scenario where a positive case and resulting self-isolation could not be deemed a valid reason. Even if someone had breached rules and guidelines and that was identified could it ever be certain that was the cause of the outbreak?

I realise this is entirely different but I am involved in grassroots. This season we have postponed more than half the scheduled games so far due to covid reasons. The league this season just accept that is acceptable and rescedule. I had an opposition team not fulfil due to player registration issues and there was an investigation and I got a 3-0 win (even though I wrote a letter in support of them asking we be allowed to play). I suppose the point I am making is the investigations and sanctions are not being used when covid is involved, but we still do it for traditional reasons. I just wonder whether we need to remove the threat of sanctions and make decisions without that sort of pressure.
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It has happened in Scotland. Kilmarnock and I think St Mirren both postponed games and following investigation had been found to have breached protocols and the three points were given to opponents. Think the players may have been sharing lifts for example. Its mad, mad times.
 
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