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St Badger said:
Here’s an interesting view on lockdown which, IMO, has some merit, but still puts some people at risk.

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Is this a subliminal herd immunity piece? The sticking point, and it always has been, is the lack of a comprehensive comprehensive test and trace system plus maintaining isolation for the old gits from the young'uns whilst the virus tares through the liberated yoof and spreads beyond.
This worth a read re debunking the "Great Barrington declaration" The declaration, which called for an immediate resumption of “life as normal” for everyone but the “vulnerable”, fuelled these notions by casting doubt on the utility of lockdown restrictions. “We know that all populations will eventually reach herd immunity”, it stated.

"shutting away the most vulnerable as life continues as normal is not only inhumane, but impossible: by this measure, the carers, household members and frequent close contacts of vulnerable people would also need to isolate. Moreover, young people with pre-existing conditions they don’t yet know about can be equally susceptible, and “long Covid”, with its debilitating host of symptoms, affects people of different ages."
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...rd-immunity-funding-bad-science-anti-lockdown
 
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StJabbo1 said:
Is this a subliminal herd immunity piece? The sticking point, and it always has been, is the lack of a comprehensive comprehensive test and trace system plus maintaining isolation for the old gits from the young'uns whilst the virus tares through the liberated yoof and spreads beyond.
This worth a read re debunking the "Great Barrington declaration" The declaration, which called for an immediate resumption of “life as normal” for everyone but the “vulnerable”, fuelled these notions by casting doubt on the utility of lockdown restrictions. “We know that all populations will eventually reach herd immunity”, it stated.

"shutting away the most vulnerable as life continues as normal is not only inhumane, but impossible: by this measure, the carers, household members and frequent close contacts of vulnerable people would also need to isolate. Moreover, young people with pre-existing conditions they don’t yet know about can be equally susceptible, and “long Covid”, with its debilitating host of symptoms, affects people of different ages."
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...rd-immunity-funding-bad-science-anti-lockdown
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It also revolves around a fantasy: that there's a means to isolate the vulnerable from the population through which the virus is raging. When asked, they pretty well just shrugged:

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Saintmagic said:
Did he actually say that?
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Robshaw, who is set to join San Diego Legion in the US, expressed his "deepest apologies" for "leaving the hotel post-training with some of my team-mates".

"A huge effort went into conducting this match in a safe fashion and it was irresponsible of me to break the protocols which are put in place to protect players, staff and the public," he said.

"I understand that my actions have ultimately contributed to the cancellation of Sunday's match and I am sincerely remorseful for my role in undoing all the amazing work that went into trying to make it happen.

"I promise that I will learn from this mistake and ensure something like this never happens again."
 
ChilcoSaint said:
Robshaw, who is set to join San Diego Legion in the US, expressed his "deepest apologies" for "leaving the hotel post-training with some of my team-mates".

"A huge effort went into conducting this match in a safe fashion and it was irresponsible of me to break the protocols which are put in place to protect players, staff and the public," he said.

"I understand that my actions have ultimately contributed to the cancellation of Sunday's match and I am sincerely remorseful for my role in undoing all the amazing work that went into trying to make it happen.

"I promise that I will learn from this mistake and ensure something like this never happens again."
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"**** it we got caught, sorry" Arrogant arseholes.
 
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sotonsaint said:
Love how it went from "works perfectly" like it was the saviour of mankind to "lessen severity" in the space of a sentence . Bunch of ****ing blaggers!
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Lessens severity is a good thing and is how some vaccines work. The shingles vaccine doesn’t prevent shingles but protects you against the worst effects. See no reason to insult people who are actually doing something about this dreadful disease.
 
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This Wales lockdown is absolutely bonkers, shops covering up non essential items ffs. Mental.
 
fran-MLs little camera said:
Lessens severity is a good thing and is how some vaccines work. The shingles vaccine doesn’t prevent shingles but protects you against the worst effects. See no reason to insult people who are actually doing something about this dreadful disease.
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SS misread the report anyway, it says that the vaccine does work perfectly quelling fears that it might only lessen severity.
 
Libby said:
This Wales lockdown is absolutely bonkers, shops covering up non essential items ffs. Mental.
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Yeah, it does look bonkers. The idea is to prevent supermarkets being able to sell white goods, clothes etc, when independent traders can’t; that’s fair enough imo, but the sensible thing would have been to let all shops stay open so long as they observe strict Covid secure protocols.
 
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