S.A.F.C. - the future

[Makemstine Roger]

Don’t take it to heart Somb every board still have their quota of Neanderthals

And if they washed the gravy stains off their black and white tops maybe the board wouldn't point out the obvious and would be more delicate with them

 

[Gordon Armstrong]

Why all of this animosity towards Hatty all of a sudden

Surely we all know by now that he's 'one of us' . . . . it doesn't matter that he's got a monochrome allegiance, and he's just as welcome here as anybody else.

He's never been abusive towards any of us, and has only ever marked one card so we should treat him accordingly

He's not even a occasional visitor/tourist . . . . he's a part of the furniture

 

[Northumberland Rocks]

Why the balance of power has shifted in Sunderland takeover talks as Stewart Donald eyes sale
There has been a shift in power in Sunderland takeover talks – with the buying side now holding more of the cards. Ok
That’s according to football finance expert Kieran Maguire of the University of Liverpool, who believes that potential buyers could now hold the upper hand in negotiations.

The Black Cats remain on the market ten months after Stewart Donald announced his intention to sell, and The Echo understands that discussions are ongoing with interested parties – as they have been for much of the summer.


And while many feared that COVID-19 could deter potential buyers, Maguire believes that the current climate could actually see more investors enter the market – as they look to buy clubs at a knock-down price.
While Charlie Methven has confirmed that Sunderland will not be one of the casualties of the coronavirus, there are a number of clubs facing an uncertain few months ahead with major income streams cut-off.

As such, investors are seeing a chance to purchase sides as ‘distressed assets’, for a much lower fee than expected.

"It's a bit of a double-edged sword,” he said, speaking to The Echo.

"I deal with quite a few people who are interested in buying football clubs, and there seem to be more of them about than ever because we have seen during COVID that there have been quite a few winners among high-worth individuals.


"Some industries have done extremely well because of COVID and if you're one of the few then you find yourself a bit more wealthy - and the power in negotiations has shifted from the sellers to the buyers.

"This means that potential buyers of football clubs are going around looking for bargains and they are in a strong position to drive down the price. I don't think COVID will put buyers off, but they will be taking a look at things. “

A number of clubs have already shown that takeovers can be completed during the pandemic, with Wigan Athletic nearing a sale and Charlton Athletic already purchased by Thomas Sandgaard.

The Spanish-led deal for Wigan is particularly intriguing given the limited fee involved to purchase both the club and their impressive stadium.
There are mitigating factors, but Magurie believes deals such as this could act as a benchmark for other takeover attempts.

"Wigan are apparently being sold for between £3million and £4million, including the stadium which is an absolute bargain,” he added.

"That sets a benchmark against which other deals are going to be viewed. Wigan's circumstances are that they needed to be sold by the administrators, so that would have also driven the price down.

"But people will be looking for opportunities to buy football clubs as distressed assets, which is a horrible management term, and they'll be able to benefit from lower prices on the back of that.”

Donald has publicly stated that his asking price for Sunderland is £37.6million – although in an interview with the Echo earlier this year, Madrox claimed that price was ‘flexible within reason’.

I would hope the £37.6m is not a realistic figure in the current climate. No issue with the owners making a little profit on their personal investment in the Club but it should not be on the back of the Club's premier league parachute payments as this figure suggests.

 

[ISOE II]

Why all of this animosity towards Hatty all of a sudden

Surely we all know by now that he's 'one of us' . . . . it doesn't matter that he's got a monochrome allegiance, and he's just as welcome here as anybody else.

He's never been abusive towards any of us, and has only ever marked one card so we should treat him accordingly

He's not even a occasional visitor/tourist . . . . he's a part of the furniture

As a wise man once said we need at least one Mag on the team so we have someone to take the piss out of.

 

[Vincemac]

Why all of this animosity towards Hatty all of a sudden

Surely we all know by now that he's 'one of us' . . . . it doesn't matter that he's got a monochrome allegiance, and he's just as welcome here as anybody else.

He's never been abusive towards any of us, and has only ever marked one card so we should treat him accordingly

He's not even a occasional visitor/tourist . . . . he's a part of the furniture
not a problem
Welcome on here for me any time

 

[Nig]

Will never understand why a mag would not only comment on a Sunderland forum but actually register an account. Utter YewTree behaviour

[HASHTAG]#obsessed[/HASHTAG] [HASHTAG]#lalan[/HASHTAG] [HASHTAG]#zzz fest[/HASHTAG]

Because deep down he's really a Mackem

 

[Evil Jimmy Krankie]

I would hope the £37.6m is not a realistic figure in the current climate. No issue with the owners making a little profit on their personal investment in the Club but it should not be on the back of the Club's premier league parachute payments as this figure suggests.

I have a big issue with them making a profit. It sort of suggests that they’re leaving it in a better condition than when they acquired it. And we all know that’s about as far from the truth as is possible.

 

[Nig]

Looking back this morning, perhaps I said one or two things a bit OTT, but not too much wrong. Maybe not one of my finer nights

Thats fine, cheer yourself up,
Wear one of your favourite flowery frocks today sweetie

 

[Bank of England 2]

Well he did say in one of the first podcasts with RR that he was after a profit from the club to make up the money he lost with Eastleigh - seems that's still the case

So he f*cks up at Eastleigh and our club has to pay for it? If this is true, he wants hanging from the Wearmouth Bridge.

 

[Bob Cheval]

Why all of this animosity towards Hatty all of a sudden

Surely we all know by now that he's 'one of us' . . . . it doesn't matter that he's got a monochrome allegiance, and he's just as welcome here as anybody else.

He's never been abusive towards any of us, and has only ever marked one card so we should treat him accordingly

He's not even a occasional visitor/tourist . . . . he's a part of the furniture

Still a mag though.

 

[Nig]

Just caught up on the thread for the last 20 pages.

The most interesting development being that a fair few Sunderland fans imagine Dean Whitehead when they’re bucking away.

I thought I was the only one...

Now I'm glad I've been with wor lass 28 years and no longer have sex

 

[Bank of England 2]

Doesnt matter how many times i watch it you cannot quite see owt can you? Expertly done.

I don't know mate, I haven't looked that closely. I'll just have to scan it some more and I'll report back to you.

 

[Somebodys pinched my sombrero]

Why all of this animosity towards Hatty all of a sudden

Surely we all know by now that he's 'one of us' . . . . it doesn't matter that he's got a monochrome allegiance, and he's just as welcome here as anybody else.

He's never been abusive towards any of us, and has only ever marked one card so we should treat him accordingly

He's not even a occasional visitor/tourist . . . . he's a part of the furniture

Thanks for those kind words, mate. I’m big enough and ugly enough for it not to bother me. A few folk who I’ve never heard of, and one or two who I’m not bothered about. I’m surprised at a couple though?
Live and learn, eh.

 

[Somebodys pinched my sombrero]

Because deep down he's really a Mackem

No needs for that, ffs.

 

[Bank of England 2]

I have a big issue with them making a profit. It sort of suggests that they’re leaving it in a better condition than when they acquired it. And we all know that’s about as far from the truth as is possible.

Absolutely right. The problem seems to be that Donald thinks he's enhanced the club in some way, so that it's worth more than it clearly is. How getting rid of all of your saleable assets, desolating the potential future assets of the club (academy) and leaving a club in it's worst league position in it's history can be deemed a success is beyond me.

 

[Julio]

Mad Bob reckons its not GF now. Which indicates he reckons it was gonna be him but no longer

 

[Sydney Greenstreet]

Mad Bob reckons its not GF now. Which indicates he reckons it was gonna be him but no longer

so GF announced on monday as new owner in that case

 

[Julio]

so GF announced on monday as new owner in that case

God knows my default Sunderland setting of about to be massively underwhelmed is kicking in

 

[Makemstine Roger]

Why all of this animosity towards Hatty all of a sudden

Surely we all know by now that he's 'one of us' . . . . it doesn't matter that he's got a monochrome allegiance, and he's just as welcome here as anybody else.

He's never been abusive towards any of us, and has only ever marked one card so we should treat him accordingly

He's not even a occasional visitor/tourist . . . . he's a part of the furniture

twats to quite and im only on a wind up as he will know only too well

 

[Smug in Boots]

Mad Bob reckons its not GF now. Which indicates he reckons it was gonna be him but no longer

Which in Bob's world means it could be tomorrow