City v Grimsby

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dennisboothstash said:
It’s a fair point, although Tesco and Asda aren’t part of a group of shops that all agree rules on how they’ll sell stuff and how much they can pay their staff in relation to their income, and already agree to share income between them all. Also they don’t have competitions with other smaller shops that we all go and watch where they see who can sell stuff most effectively and have a big ‘shop off’ each year where we all keenly watch their tills and spend endless hours discussing how their shelf stacking is going and why they sell us their beans at different prices.
Asda and Tesco would be fine without any other shops, but if there were no more football clubs apart from two big ones in each country then the season would get a bit boring and mean they gradually died too.

Other than that you’re bang on (I’m not even being sarcastic. The notion of big clubs bailing out small ones is ok in theory, and something they probably are discussing, but the way big clubs currently work with loans and shareholders etc means it’s not realistic to simply impose it on them, they would need to take a long term business decision as to whether it was sensible or not...whether we like that or not)
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Asda and Tesco don't use smaller shops to give staff operational experience, or find and train prospective employees that they then buy from them.
 
Not the big clubs bailing out smaller ones, but the FA, PL and EFL - the deal negotiated in the first place....
Personally I'd remove fair play rules for promoted clubs, as that immediately disadvantages them, compared to established sides...

If fair play worked, then how come the same clubs are at the top now?

It gives advantage to rich clubs only....
 
Chazz Rheinhold said:
Why aren’t tesco and asda bailing out the small shopkeepers who are going to the wall?
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It's worse than that, Tesco own Booker who I think own Macro the two major suppliers to small independent shops. It's alleged that Booker and Macro have been restricting supplies to independent retailers, favouring suppling Tesco. All in all aiding the demise of the small shops.
 
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DMD said:
Asda and Tesco don't use smaller shops to give staff operational experience, or find and train prospective employees that they then buy from them.
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They might do sometimes, but I suspect as you say they prefer to develop their own staff through their youth academy.
I do actually know of another very large company who actively target employees of well performing shops though. I was told by their Chief Exec although I doubt they’d admit that.
 
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balkan tiger said:
It's worse than that, Tesco own Booker who I think own Macro the two major suppliers to small independent shops. It's alleged that Booker and Macro have been restricting supplies to independent retailers, favouring suppling Tesco. All in all aiding the demise of the small shops.
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Interesting, although not surprising.
 
DMD said:
The Prem would collapse without the lower leagues, but the lower leagues could survive in some form without the Prem.
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Bang on.
I’m happy with using my local shop to buy from, and like it when they provide a good ‘shopping experience’ and employ good staff, without desperately hoping they buy another shop and gradually get bigger until they can challenge Tescos for dominance...and I feel the same about City.
 
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Mckechnie Orange said:
Club seemed totally blind to the incubation period in agreeing to play West ham.

Cant believe from a potential transmission
Perspective were playing tomorrow.

That said, West ham offer of free testing wouldnt have shown anything considering we were exposed by them in their stadium on the day
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City did the EFL a massive favour by fulfilling that fixture v West Ham. The EFL should have made the decision to play that game or not, not back City in a corner to play or face the consequences.
We had to play because the next round games are being played next week.
Wonder if it were Spurs and not Orient with three players showing positive the game would have been handed to Orient the other night ? Which is what the EFL should have done to City v WHU.
 
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balkan tiger said:
It's worse than that, Tesco own Booker who I think own Macro the two major suppliers to small independent shops. It's alleged that Booker and Macro have been restricting supplies to independent retailers, favouring suppling Tesco. All in all aiding the demise of the small shops.
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In some ways we've all aided the demise of the small shops.
 
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DMD said:
The Prem would collapse without the lower leagues, but the lower leagues could survive in some form without the Prem.
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I think the Premier League would do just fine by scouting and buying players from the rest of Europe and South America.
 
Ric Glasgow said:
In some ways we've all aided the demise of the small shops.
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You’re right.
There’s only us that can do something about that though.
I’m nowhere near perfect, but I have made a decision to try and shop local where I can (only reason I’m on here is I’m trying to find where I can buy some specific bulbs without resorting to Amazon)
If you accept we caused the demise of local shops then by the same logic we must be just as capable of causing their resurgence too?

EDIT - I seem to be unusually optimistic here. Might not drive today as I may still be pissed rather than just being hung over. Still think we’ll lose against the local cobblers shop though...
 
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dennisboothstash said:
It’s a fair point, although Tesco and Asda aren’t part of a group of shops that all agree rules on how they’ll sell stuff and how much they can pay their staff in relation to their income, and already agree to share income between them all. Also they don’t have competitions with other smaller shops that we all go and watch where they see who can sell stuff most effectively and have a big ‘shop off’ each year where we all keenly watch their tills and spend endless hours discussing how their shelf stacking is going and why they sell us their beans at different prices.
Asda and Tesco would be fine without any other shops, but if there were no more football clubs apart from two big ones in each country then the season would get a bit boring and mean they gradually died too.

Other than that you’re bang on (I’m not even being sarcastic. The notion of big clubs bailing out small ones is ok in theory, and something they probably are discussing, but the way big clubs currently work with loans and shareholders etc means it’s not realistic to simply impose it on them, they would need to take a long term business decision as to whether it was sensible or not...whether we like that or not)
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Tesco use the benefits system to their advantage. Not sure of the exact details because I'm not on benefits, ( self employed) but they employ armies of part timers on just enough hours so their employees can top up their wages using the benefit system, is it income support?
So we are all subsidising Tesco's wage bill.
Is it Asda and /or that firm were you order from a catalogue and your new kettle arrives on a conveyor belt like the generation game where they employ people on just enough hours so they are not entitled to a tea or lunch break ?
The future folks is a warehouse as big as Scunthorpe full of part time Government subsided employees feeding cardboard boxes onto a conveyor belt to be delivered to your door by part time van drivers. No need to leave your armchair for anything.
Hope City win today.
 
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dennisboothstash said:
You’re right.
There’s only us that can do something about that though.
I’m nowhere near perfect, but I have made a decision to try and shop local where I can (only reason I’m on here is I’m trying to find where I can buy some specific bulbs without resorting to Amazon)
If you accept we caused the demise of local shops then by the same logic we must be just as capable of causing their resurgence too?

EDIT - I seem to be unusually optimistic here. Might not drive today as I may still be pissed rather than just being hung over. Still think we’ll lose against the local cobblers shop though...
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What bulbs are you looking for DBT ?
 
Urika Peece. said:
Tesco use the benefits system to their advantage. Not sure of the exact details because I'm not on benefits, ( self employed) but they employ armies of part timers on just enough hours so their employees can top up their wages using the benefit system, is it income support?
So we are all subsidising Tesco's wage bill.
Is it Asda and /or that firm were you order from a catalogue and your new kettle arrives on a conveyor belt like the generation game where they employ people on just enough hours so they are not entitled to a tea or lunch break ?
The future folks is a warehouse as big as Scunthorpe full of part time Government subsided employees feeding cardboard boxes onto a conveyor belt to be delivered to your door by part time van drivers. No need to leave your armchair for anything.
Hope City win today.
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Didn’t know that, but like lots of things with big businesses I’m not surprised.
They also make fortunes from selling the data from your club cards too (some of it to NHS etc as it’s really useful for targeting health campaigns but even so...)
 
Urika Peece. said:
City did the EFL a massive favour by fulfilling that fixture v West Ham. The EFL should have made the decision to play that game or not, not back City in a corner to play or face the consequences.
We had to play because the next round games are being played next week.
Wonder if it were Spurs and not Orient with three players showing positive the game would have been handed to Orient the other night ? Which is what the EFL should have done to City v WHU.
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My sons youth football started playing last weekend, initially the other team pulled on the morning of the game as they didn't have enough players... This was then classed as a walkover and we got the 3 points, half an hour later they had managed to get 10 players and the game was back on, when we got there they had 11, our team won anyway...
 
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balkan tiger said:
It's worse than that, Tesco own Booker who I think own Macro the two major suppliers to small independent shops. It's alleged that Booker and Macro have been restricting supplies to independent retailers, favouring suppling Tesco. All in all aiding the demise of the small shops.
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Personal experience. I was buying and selling paint from two local wholesale's in Hull a few years back. I'd buy half a pallet from one place and all the returned, dinted tins and end of line colours from another. Every week, I'd be there. Cash. I'd then sell the stuff during the week cheap.
Until one Saturday morning when I turned up and was told by both firms that they don't want to supply me anymore because I was 'under selling' the paint.
Seems a bigger customer said they would no longer buy from them if they continued to supply me because I was selling the paint cheaper then they were.The bigger customer was a multi million pound national concern, I'm a one man band.
 
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Urika Peece. said:
Tesco use the benefits system to their advantage. Not sure of the exact details because I'm not on benefits, ( self employed) but they employ armies of part timers on just enough hours so their employees can top up their wages using the benefit system, is it income support?
So we are all subsidising Tesco's wage bill.
Is it Asda and /or that firm were you order from a catalogue and your new kettle arrives on a conveyor belt like the generation game where they employ people on just enough hours so they are not entitled to a tea or lunch break ?
The future folks is a warehouse as big as Scunthorpe full of part time Government subsided employees feeding cardboard boxes onto a conveyor belt to be delivered to your door by part time van drivers. No need to leave your armchair for anything.
Hope City win today.
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I think they call it universal credit these days but you're absolutely spot on.Slightly off topic but Wetherspoons employ younger employees on minimum wage ie:-18-20's on £6.45 per hour,21-24 year olds on £8.20 per hour rather than pay a 25 year old £8.72?
 
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