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Butthuber said:
Do you remember Tönnies ? They even closed down the complete factory (2700 people were involved) and NOONE got ill. Apart from that we to be precise once more again. Someone who is tested positive is not directly infected. Being infected does not automatically means one got ill. The so called Covid-19 death toll is very low (9325 today for Germany). The measures you are describing as "sensible" have never been taken before. What we have learned so far is that this virus is no more deadly than any other flu in recent years. Jens Spahn has also openly said the measures that had been taken (lockdown) were wrong ! Don´t you believe the Minister in charge anymore ?
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Rubbish BH. There were 2,203 corona infections amongst people who either worked at the plant in Gütersloh or were connected to it in other ways. Of those 29 were inpatients and 5 were in intensive.
 
Butthuber said:
You are totally wrong. In 2017/2018 there were 3 times the people that died year in a very short period (3 months) and nothing happened. No measures were taken and noone talked about it - just statistics.
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I suppose it never occurred to you that the reason why the Covid 19 death toll is lower is because we had a lockdown. How many more would have died without it !
 
colognehornet said:
Rubbish BH. There were 2,203 corona infections amongst people who either worked at the plant in Gütersloh or were connected to it in other ways. Of those 29 were inpatients and 5 were in intensive.
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Nobody died. So 100 % stayed alive. 2700 people were in quarantine and the taken measures were 100% wrong but had very bad consequenses for the people that had to endure a 14 days "imprisonment", the company suffered a lot (people lost their jobs) and the outcome was zero.
 
Butthuber said:
You are so silly. The peak of the virus was over before they introduced wearing masks. Fake pandemic.
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You need to do your research before bandying words like 'silly' around towards everything you don't like matey. German states mandated school and Kindergarten closures from the 13th of March and by the 22nd of March curfews were imposed in six German states. The lockdown was well in placed by the end of March. The highest days for new cases in Germany were the 27th of March (6,933) and later the 2nd of April (6,813) - the worst day for deaths was the 8th of April with 333. By the middle of April cases were dropping as a result of the lockdown which had been in place for about 3 weeks ! It appears the lockdown was at exactly the right time (should have been earlier and included the carnival).
 
colognehornet said:
You need to do your research before bandying words like 'silly' around towards everything you don't like matey. German states mandated school and Kindergarten closures from the 13th of March and by the 22nd of March curfews were imposed in six German states. The lockdown was well in placed by the end of March. The highest days for new cases in Germany were the 27th of March (6,933) and later the 2nd of April (6,813) - the worst day for deaths was the 8th of April with 333. By the middle of April cases were dropping as a result of the lockdown which had been in place for about 3 weeks ! It appears the lockdown was at exactly the right time (should have been earlier and included the carnival).
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You just admitted that the so-called pandemic was over at that time (April). The same what happens every year with the flu. You cannot effectively stop a pandemic with the measures that were taken. The German Minister of Health even admitted that the lookdown wasn´s necessary still they keep on with that utter nonsense. You obviously like to ignore what Jens Spahn said a couple of days ago - he is the one in charge but you know better ?

Once more again:

1. Someone being tested positive with the unvalidated PCR is NOT necessarily infected
2. Someone being infected is NOT necessarily ill
3. Somoen being ill is NOT necessarily going to die
4. Only a pathologist can give proof someone died from Sars-Cov-2
5. Nobody was examined by pathologists, everyone that died with a positive PCR test was called a "COVID-19" victim.
6. The US CDS just admitted that and corrected the numbers from 146000 down to roughly 9000 (and it is not clear that those numbers are right since the examination of a pathologist is necessary as mentioned above.
 
Butthuber said:
You just admitted that the so-called pandemic was over at that time (April). The same what happens every year with the flu. You cannot effectively stop a pandemic with the measures that were taken. The German Minister of Health even admitted that the lookdown wasn´s necessary still they keep on with that utter nonsense. You obviously like to ignore what Jens Spahn said a couple of days ago - he is the one in charge but you know better ?

Once more again:

1. Someone being tested positive with the unvalidated PCR is NOT necessarily infected
2. Someone being infected is NOT necessarily ill
3. Somoen being ill is NOT necessarily going to die
4. Only a pathologist can give proof someone died from Sars-Cov-2
5. Nobody was examined by pathologists, everyone that died with a positive PCR test was called a "COVID-19" victim.
6. The US CDS just admitted that and corrected the numbers from 146000 down to roughly 9000 (and it is not clear that those numbers are right since the examination of a pathologist is necessary as mentioned above.
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Just to remind you of the simple calender facts - March comes before April ! The lockdown was starting in March and the peak was at the beginning of April ! Of course you cannot stop a pandemic in its tracks with a lockdown - nobody suggested you could - the object of the exercise was to slow down the rate of infection so that the medical services did not collapse - and it worked, because the numbers of new cases were falling by mid April (a month after the first lockdown measures were imposed).
 
Now quarantining arrivals from certain Greek islands, so we’ve managed to achieve that level of complexity eventually. This merits praise across at least the first ten pages of every news outlet tomorrow morning as well as a knighthood for Grant Shapps.
 
How on earth can anyone possibly have any fear of the virus. Around 2600- 2700 people die every day in Germany. In the UK the number is around 2300 - 2400. So for Germany the total Covid-19 death toll matches 3,5 days - very similar to the UK and most of the other countries.
 
colognehornet said:
Just to remind you of the simple calender facts - March comes before April ! The lockdown was starting in March and the peak was at the beginning of April ! Of course you cannot stop a pandemic in its tracks with a lockdown - nobody suggested you could - the object of the exercise was to slow down the rate of infection so that the medical services did not collapse - and it worked, because the numbers of new cases were falling by mid April (a month after the first lockdown measures were imposed).
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You did it again. The Minister of Health said the Lockdown wasn´t necessary but you keep repeating this nonsense.


Once more again:

1. Someone being tested positive with the unvalidated PCR is NOT necessarily infected
2. Someone being infected is NOT necessarily ill
3. Somoen being ill is NOT necessarily going to die
4. Only a pathologist can give proof someone died from Sars-Cov-2
5. Nobody was examined by pathologists, everyone that died with a positive PCR test was called a "COVID-19" victim.
6. The US CDS just admitted that and corrected the numbers from 146000 down to roughly 9000 (and it is not clear that those numbers are right since the examination of a pathologist is necessary as mentioned above.
7. 9350 (so called) Covid-19 deaths
8. 2600 people die every day on everage (in Germany)
 
Butthuber said:
You did it again. The Minister of Health said the Lockdown wasn´t necessary but you keep repeating this nonsense.


Once more again:

1. Someone being tested positive with the unvalidated PCR is NOT necessarily infected
2. Someone being infected is NOT necessarily ill
3. Somoen being ill is NOT necessarily going to die
4. Only a pathologist can give proof someone died from Sars-Cov-2
5. Nobody was examined by pathologists, everyone that died with a positive PCR test was called a "COVID-19" victim.
6. The US CDS just admitted that and corrected the numbers from 146000 down to roughly 9000 (and it is not clear that those numbers are right since the examination of a pathologist is necessary as mentioned above.
7. 9350 (so called) Covid-19 deaths
8. 2600 people die every day on everage (in Germany)
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Did what again ! I simply contradicted your earlier statement that the peak of the virus was over before the lockdown took place. Once again you are changing the subject when it suits you.
 
Butthuber said:
You did it again. The Minister of Health said the Lockdown wasn´t necessary but you keep repeating this nonsense.


Once more again:

1. Someone being tested positive with the unvalidated PCR is NOT necessarily infected
2. Someone being infected is NOT necessarily ill
3. Somoen being ill is NOT necessarily going to die
4. Only a pathologist can give proof someone died from Sars-Cov-2
5. Nobody was examined by pathologists, everyone that died with a positive PCR test was called a "COVID-19" victim.
6. The US CDS just admitted that and corrected the numbers from 146000 down to roughly 9000 (and it is not clear that those numbers are right since the examination of a pathologist is necessary as mentioned above.
7. 9350 (so called) Covid-19 deaths
8. 2600 people die every day on everage (in Germany)
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All those who die in hospital are given a post-mortem, and all post mortems are performed by pathologists - who establish the cause of death. As is so often the case with you you grab at some info which you heard on YouTube and want to believe, and present it as fact.
 
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