Charities cash struggles

[Smug in Boots]

On a chat forum? Chat. Not demands that your questions are answered.

So you've no opinion, as I thought.

I'm demanding nothing, just asking a question.

I simply don't want my donation going to a country with disgraceful human rights, massive arms spending, corruption and an engrained system of slavery.

I want to believe my donation goes to the brave people saving lives in the UK.

That's my choice, nothing to get enraged about.

 

[Makemstine Roger]

They do a cracking job it just boils my piss that the scumbags in charge give away the donation money, all the work done by the guys on the ground are as volunteers yet the fat cats in the big houses and sipping dom perignon couldn't give a flying **** about the money raised by joe public.as long as they look good and the minions get 10 pence in every pound raised , and they don't have to pay a penny in tax.

i take it that wanderer could be a taker not a giver

 

[wearside wanderer II]

Which is always better than, a commie voting, Corbynista loving,country hating twats who should **** off if they don't like it.

Are you saying you are a nailed on Gammon then?

 

[wearside wanderer II]

Very poor, your argument had been quite decent up til now ....

... Im always happy to debate but can't be doing with ludicrous innacurate insults.

I said ‘it’s like’. Maybe you should take a breath and read the post correctly

still, these improvements we need to make?

 

[wearside wanderer II]

They do a cracking job it just boils my piss that the scumbags in charge give away the donation money, all the work done by the guys on the ground are as volunteers yet the fat cats in the big houses and sipping dom perignon couldn't give a flying **** about the money raised by joe public.as long as they look good and the minions get 10 pence in every pound raised , and they don't have to pay a penny in tax.

i take it that wanderer could be a taker not a giver

poor show, I volunteer 80-100 hours a week, amongst the other 20 lads and lasses on our station. we pull dead fish rotten bodies from the Wear, we give casualty care to people who think they have nothing left in life we pull our sorry arse out of bed at all times of the night, we don’t ask for thanks, we don’t want medals, we don’t ask for much at all.
But you think I take and not give.

wow

 

[The Berk]

I’m pretty much in the ‘not wanting UK charity money being spent abroad’ camp. However I won’t stop my donation because I’d see that as a cut my nose off type of reaction. I would prefer to be able to donate direct to Sunderland or Seaham though if that was possible.
On the wages paid to the CEO to be honest I’d imagine that is a full time job and no one would do that for nowt, I know I wouldn’t.

 

[The Norton Cat]

So you've no opinion, as I thought.

I'm demanding nothing, just asking a question.

I simply don't want my donation going to a country with disgraceful human rights, massive arms spending, corruption and an engrained system of slavery.

I want to believe my donation goes to the brave people saving lives in the UK.

That's my choice, nothing to get enraged about.

Many people would interpret "prove what you've claimed" as a demand to answer a question.

You've used the linguistic tool of intimation to suggest that I should have provided you with my opinion on charities. Some people would interpret that as being tantamount to a demand.

I am not obliged to provide my opinion. In fact, I wouldn't have commented on this thread, just read what could have been quite an interesting discussion. However, I wished to express my disappointment that the thread had been devalued by what appears to me (and this is just my interpretation, I am not stating facts) to be attempts to either set the tone of discussion or to deliberately engage another poster in a convoluted argument for sole purpose of 'winning' said argument.

 

[Makemstine Roger]

poor show, I volunteer 80-100 hours a week, amongst the other 20 lads and lasses on our station. we pull dead fish rotten bodies from the Wear, we give casualty care to people who think they have nothing left in life we pull our sorry arse out of bed at all times of the night, we don’t ask for thanks, we don’t want medals, we don’t ask for much at all.
But you think I take and not give.

wow

i have no problem with the good work you do, in fact its a glowing tribute to you personally. where you let yourself down is your pig headed statements defending the indefensible. like Tanzania is a muslim country, then having to admit your wrong, then Zanzibar is muslim which is correct as they had hit squads killing christians as far back as 1995,threatening christian kids burning down christian churches and schools but its still not a muslim country. just admit your wrong and stop defending you stupid gaffs

 

[Smug in Boots]

Many people would interpret "prove what you've claimed" as a demand to answer a question. You've used the linguistic tool of intimation to suggest that I should have provided you with my opinion on charities. Some people would interpret that as being tantamount to a demand.

I am not obliged to provide my opinion. In fact, I wouldn't have commented on this thread, just read what could have been quite an interesting discussion. However, I wished to express my disappointment that the thread had been devalued by what appears to me (and this is just my interpretation, I am not stating facts) to be attempts to either set the tone of discussion or to deliberately engage another poster in a convoluted argument for sole purpose of 'winning' said argument.

That's possibly the most precious thing I've ever seen on this forum.

"An intimation is a demand" ... wow!

I'm not demanding answers, I can live without your observations tbh.

Take it easy.

 

[The Norton Cat]

That's possibly the most precious thing I've ever seen on this forum.

I'm not demanding answers, I can live without your observations tbh.

Take it easy.

Thank you!

 

[wearside wanderer II]

i have no problem with the good work you do, in fact its a glowing tribute to you personally. where you let yourself down is your pig headed statements defending the indefensible. like Tanzania is a muslim country, then having to admit your wrong, then Zanzibar is muslim which is correct as they had hit squads killing christians as far back as 1995,threatening christian kids burning down christian churches and schools but its still not a muslim country. just admit your wrong and stop defending you stupid gaffs

Other than your opinion, nothing is backing up your argument.
You seem to be throwing sticks at the moon

 

[wearside wanderer II]

I’m pretty much in the ‘not wanting UK charity money being spent abroad’ camp. However I won’t stop my donation because I’d see that as a cut my nose off type of reaction. I would prefer to be able to donate direct to Sunderland or Seaham though if that was possible.
On the wages paid to the CEO to be honest I’d imagine that is a full time job and no one would do that for nowt, I know I wouldn’t.

it was also a ‘project’.
Now, forgive me if I’m wrong Projects usually don't last forever, especially if they are no use or not viable.There is a way to donate for pure station use, we cover Seaham as they no longer have a station sadly.

 

[Montysoptician]

poor show, I volunteer 80-100 hours a week, amongst the other 20 lads and lasses on our station. we pull dead fish rotten bodies from the Wear, we give casualty care to people who think they have nothing left in life we pull our sorry arse out of bed at all times of the night, we don’t ask for thanks, we don’t want medals, we don’t ask for much at all.
But you think I take and not give.

wow

@wearside wanderer II a massive thank you to you and your colleagues for your service.

Prior to retirement, I was one of the managers in a large establishment, at the beginning of each year we would chose a charity and all money raised from our many charitable events during that year went to that particular charity. In reality, because of the community we were in, the chosen charity generally fluctuated between the RNLI and the Air Ambulance unless there was a local good cause with immediate needs. I chaired many of these meetings and all of the committee were fully aware of the aims and objectives of the charity that we chose to donate to.

People are free to chose who they help and how they spend their disposable income but I wouldn’t donate a penny without reading the mission statement of the charity and finding out the actual percentage of income available for the charitable purposes. Personally I applaud the RNLI for their work overseas, especially in third world countries. As the Bible says, if you give a man a fish, he will eat today, but teach a man to fish and he will eat forever.

Thanks again for your work.

 

[The Berk]

it was also a ‘project’.
Now, forgive me if I’m wrong Projects usually don't last forever, especially if they are no use or not viable.

I understand that and I also understand an organisation that saves lives isn’t gonna say no to helping others to save lives. That would in my opinion lose more donations than those that have stopped for the other reason. But I’d prefer the option of where my bit goes, it’s not a game changer I still donate.

 

[wearside wanderer II]

@wearside wanderer II a massive thank you to you and your colleagues for your service.

Prior to retirement, I was one of the managers in a large establishment, at the beginning of each year we would chose a charity and all money raised from our many charitable events during that year went to that particular charity. In reality, because of the community we were in, the chosen charity generally fluctuated between the RNLI and the Air Ambulance unless there was a local good cause with immediate needs. I chaired many of these meetings and all of the committee were fully aware of the aims and objectives of the charity that we chose to donate to.

People are free to chose who they help and how they spend their disposable income but I wouldn’t donate a penny without reading the mission statement of the charity and finding out the actual percentage of income available for the charitable purposes. Personally I applaud the RNLI for their work overseas, especially in third world countries. As the Bible says, if you give a man a fish, he will eat today, but teach a man to fish and he will eat forever.

Thanks again for your work.

amazing words thank you very much, that is our goal as a crew, we all have each other backs, we don’t go to sea without having everything we want, some others don’t have that luxury.

 

[Smug in Boots]

@wearside wanderer II a massive thank you to you and your colleagues for your service.

Prior to retirement, I was one of the managers in a large establishment, at the beginning of each year we would chose a charity and all money raised from our many charitable events during that year went to that particular charity. In reality, because of the community we were in, the chosen charity generally fluctuated between the RNLI and the Air Ambulance unless there was a local good cause with immediate needs. I chaired many of these meetings and all of the committee were fully aware of the aims and objectives of the charity that we chose to donate to.

People are free to chose who they help and how they spend their disposable income but I wouldn’t donate a penny without reading the mission statement of the charity and finding out the actual percentage of income available for the charitable purposes. Personally I applaud the RNLI for their work overseas, especially in third world countries. As the Bible says, if you give a man a fish, he will eat today, but teach a man to fish and he will eat forever.

Thanks again for your work.

"As the Bible says, if you give a man a fish, he will eat today, but teach a man to fish and he will eat forever."

Firstly, it doesn't say owt like that in the Bible.

Secondly, if a man lives near a river and doesn't know how to fish he's a f*****g lost cause

 

[wearside wanderer II]

I understand that and I also understand an organisation that saves lives isn’t gonna say no to helping others to save lives. That would in my opinion lose more donations than those that have stopped for the other reason. But I’d prefer the option of where my bit goes, it’s not a game changer I still donate.

And we have zero issues with that, lots of donations are specific to a station or a region, Much like the donation specific to the Panje project.

http://www.rnlisunderland.org/contacts/how_to_donate/pg250.html

 

[Montysoptician]

"As the Bible says, if you give a man a fish, he will eat today, but teach a man to fish and he will eat forever."

Firstly, it doesn't say owt like that in the Bible.

Secondly, if a man lives near a river and doesn't know how to fish he's a f*****g lost cause

I bow to your greater knowledge of the bible, however the message behind the saying remains the same.

 

[The Berk]

And we have zero issues with that, lots of donations are specific to a station or a region, Much like the donation specific to the Panje project.
http://www.rnlisunderland.org/contacts/how_to_donate/pg250.html
http://www.rnlisunderland.org/contacts/how_to_donate/pg250.html

Champion, I didn’t realise I could do that. Cheers.

 

[Smug in Boots]

I bow to your greater knowledge of the bible, however the message behind the saying remains the same.

It's a great message tbf.

An even better message, to Bangladesh, would be to stop killing and persecuting your fellow countrymen over religion.

Practising a different religion doesn't kill anyone, only other people can do that.