Off Topic Coronavirus

[Solid Air]

Professor Diamond the head of ONS said the figure arrived at for total infections - 3.5m - was calculated by taking the results of tests done on 1,757 people since April 26 which found that 5.4% of them had had the virus. "The possible range of this was between 4.3% and 6.5% - meaning the true figure could be somewhere between 2.36m and 3.57m people ".

PHE (public health England) data based on tests from 7,694 people in May, estimated the figure of infection between 8.5% and 10% of the population.

You can see where this is going can't you. Nobody knows how much of the population has faced the virus. As you say they are doing what they can to come up with figures but imo they are far from the real picture.

err the figures from May 4th to 8th of Aug on the ONS site are based on approx 175000 samples .
not sure how this will post

Positivity rate (weighted): Sample counts (unweighted):
% testing positive for COVID-19 95% confidence interval Individuals testing positive for COVID-19 Total individuals in sample Households testing positive for COVID-19 Total households in sample
Lower Upper
4 May to 17 May 0.35% 0.25% 0.47% 51 16,293 46 7,639
18 May to 31 May 0.15% 0.10% 0.22% 32 20,431 24 9,327
1 June to 14 June 0.06% 0.03% 0.11% 13 25,589 11 11,901
15 June to 28 June 0.09% 0.05% 0.15% 18 23,820 17 11,494
29 June to 12 July 0.05% 0.03% 0.09% 19 31,630 19 15,253
13 July to 26 July 0.09% 0.06% 0.14% 25 29,840 25 14,715
27 July to 9 August 0.05% 0.03% 0.09% 17 30,522 17 15,212

 

[johnsonsbaby]

err the figures from May 4th to 8th of Aug on the ONS site are based on approx 175000 samples .
not sure how this will post

Positivity rate (weighted): Sample counts (unweighted):
% testing positive for COVID-19 95% confidence interval Individuals testing positive for COVID-19 Total individuals in sample Households testing positive for COVID-19 Total households in sample
Lower Upper
4 May to 17 May 0.35% 0.25% 0.47% 51 16,293 46 7,639
18 May to 31 May 0.15% 0.10% 0.22% 32 20,431 24 9,327
1 June to 14 June 0.06% 0.03% 0.11% 13 25,589 11 11,901
15 June to 28 June 0.09% 0.05% 0.15% 18 23,820 17 11,494
29 June to 12 July 0.05% 0.03% 0.09% 19 31,630 19 15,253
13 July to 26 July 0.09% 0.06% 0.14% 25 29,840 25 14,715
27 July to 9 August 0.05% 0.03% 0.09% 17 30,522 17 15,212

I'm not sure if we're at cross purposes here but the quote I posted was from the head of ONS saying how they came up with the 3.5m figure (ie. they extrapolated the figures from one round of tests involving 1,757 people). I've only quoted his own words.

The full interview doesn't seem to be available but I imagine someone said to him 'how did you arrive at the number of people who have currently been infected?'

 

[Solid Air]

I'm not sure if we're at cross purposes here but the quote I posted was from the head of ONS saying how they came up with the 3.5m figure (ie. they extrapolated the figures from one round of tests involving 1,757 people). I've only quoted his own words.

The full interview doesn't seem to be available but I imagine someone said to him 'how did you arrive at the number of people who have currently been infected?'

think you are looking at really old stuff tbh.

 

[johnsonsbaby]

think you are looking at really old stuff tbh.

Interview on 20th June.

The other stuff I've posted from April or March was deliberately taken from then to highlight the fact that if 5 months ago scientists were saying that possibly 50% of the population had faced the virus then the percentage now will be even higher.

 

[Solid Air]

Interview on 20th June.

The other stuff I've posted from April or March was deliberately taken from then to highlight the fact that if 5 months ago scientists were saying that possibly 50% of the population had faced the virus then the percentage now will be even higher.

i called that as bollocks from day 1 as it just wasn't credible . Some of these reports were imo deliberately sensational to garner publicity .

 

[LuisDiazgamechanger]

Liverpool pre-season chaos as positive coronavirus test is recorded at Austria camp
Lihttps://www.express.co.uk/sport/foo...sitive-test-Austria-pre-season-latest-updatesverpool are holding a pre-season camp in Saalfelden in Salzburg, Austria ahead of the new campaign.

 

[Solid Air]

I'm not sure if we're at cross purposes here but the quote I posted was from the head of ONS saying how they came up with the 3.5m figure (ie. they extrapolated the figures from one round of tests involving 1,757 people). I've only quoted his own words.

The full interview doesn't seem to be available but I imagine someone said to him 'how did you arrive at the number of people who have currently been infected?'

JB
apparently the ONS community testing survey has been running at 28000 per fortnight according to reports today as they now want to make it much higher to get a better understanding of the spread of the virus particularly those with no symptoms .

 

[johnsonsbaby]

JB
apparently the ONS community testing survey has been running at 28000 per fortnight according to reports today as they now want to make it much higher to get a better understanding of the spread of the virus particularly those with no symptoms .

I just read an article about increasing the number of tests. It said that the ONS survey showed that 72% of positive cases were asymptomatic. The last line of the article reads "...the findings suggested there was a potentially large number of asymptomatic cases of the virus."

That sentence is either stating the obvious, given that 72% of those surveyed were infected but asymptomatic, or it's suggesting that a lot more people have or have had the virus.

I'm struggling to see how the virus could only have reached 3.5m people when it's been in the country for at least 8 months.

 

[Tobes]

I just read an article about increasing the number of tests. It said that the ONS survey showed that 72% of positive cases were asymptomatic. The last line of the article reads "...the findings suggested there was a potentially large number of asymptomatic cases of the virus."

That sentence is either stating the obvious, given that 72% of those surveyed were infected but asymptomatic, or it's suggesting that a lot more people have or have had the virus.

I'm struggling to see how the virus could only have reached 3.5m people when it's been in the country for at least 8 months.

There’s been circa 320k confirmed cases in the U.K. if you add 72% to that number to account for asymptomatic cases, it’s only a fraction of the total current estimate of those who’ve been exposed i.e. 3.5m.

 

[Ivan Dobsky]

Liverpool pre-season chaos as positive coronavirus test is recorded at Austria camp
Lihttps://www.express.co.uk/sport/foo...sitive-test-Austria-pre-season-latest-updatesverpool are holding a pre-season camp in Saalfelden in Salzburg, Austria ahead of the new campaign.

This proves last season should be retrospectively null and voided. It does, you know. Think of the dying kittens and grannies drowning in their own leg ulcers. Or some such arrant humbug.

 

[astro]

There’s been circa 320k confirmed cases in the U.K. if you add 72% to that number to account for asymptomatic cases, it’s only a fraction of the total current estimate of those who’ve been exposed i.e. 3.5m.

Extrapolating those percentages to 100% exposure would mean 19 million symptomatic cases and about 3.8 million excess deaths

 

[InBiscanWeTrust]

Extrapolating those percentages to 100% exposure would mean 19 million symptomatic cases and about 3.8 million excess deaths

so about the same numbers that Florida has then

 

[astro]

[HASHTAG]#calledit[/HASHTAG] that immunity only lasts a few months

Guy in Hong Kong caught it a second time after 4.5 months

Global vaccine program or it's here forever

 

[LuisDiazgamechanger]

Tsimikas 'tests positive for Covid-19'
Reports in Greece tonight are claiming new Liverpool signing Kostas Tsimikas has tested positive for coronavirus. We reported yesterday he had been left out of Greek's squad for their first UEFA Nations League fixture as a precautionary measure after illness. That report also made clear Tsimikas along with team-mate Vassillis Lambropoulos underwent tests for coronavirus earlier in the week and both results came back negative.

 

[Zanjinho]

I play footy with a lot of lads that work for the NHS. When we finished tonight, one of them told me things are revving up behind the scenes because they expecting a massive second wave. All annual leave (including doctors) as been cancelled up to and including Christmas. Always going to happen once schools returned I guess

 

[THE FOOL]

I play footy with a lot of lads that work for the NHS. When we finished tonight, one of them told me things are revving up behind the scenes because they expecting a massive second wave. All annual leave (including doctors) as been cancelled up to and including Christmas. Always going to happen once schools returned I guess

I dont think it the schools, its everything. After the initial panic, people just arnt as arsed anymore.

Its incredible how quickly people can become bored with something. No social distancing, mask worn as a sop, pubs absolutely rammed.

The local Conservative club, populated almost exclusively by older ladies and gentlemen is absolutely chocker. Let me tell you, even though they are most at risk, they really don't give a flying ****.

 

[lfcpower]

I dont think it the schools, its everything. After the initial panic, people just arnt as arsed anymore.

Its incredible how quickly people can become bored with something. No social distancing, mask worn as a sop, pubs absolutely rammed.

The local Conservative club, populated almost exclusively by older ladies and gentlemen is absolutely chocker. Let me tell you, even though they are most at risk, they really don't give a flying ****.

Can't agree with you more. I'm completely sure we'll be back in full lockdown within a couple of months. A huge majority of people are either not bothered like you say, or just dense and don't get it. Just try to protect yourself and the people around you that you care about, that's all you can do. Nobody else gives a flying ...

 

[astro]

I dont think it the schools, its everything. After the initial panic, people just arnt as arsed anymore.

Its incredible how quickly people can become bored with something. No social distancing, mask worn as a sop, pubs absolutely rammed.

The local Conservative club, populated almost exclusively by older ladies and gentlemen is absolutely chocker. Let me tell you, even though they are most at risk, they really don't give a flying ****.

Those that live to see Brexit will envy the dead

 

[THE FOOL]

Can't agree with you more. I'm completely sure we'll be back in full lockdown within a couple of months. A huge majority of people are either not bothered like you say, or just dense and don't get it. Just try to protect yourself and the people around you that you care about, that's all you can do. Nobody else gives a flying ...

I dont think the country could afford another lockdown. I think that's why more and more onus is being put on the general public.

Another 3/4 months lock down would see any number of companies go bust, mass redundancies. I dont think online shopping would save us this time.

 

[THE FOOL]

Those that live to see Brexit will envy the dead

You'd have hoped that the virus, might gave opened the door to the idea that there are more important things than political points scoring, unfortunately I think its made it worse.