Really important stats thread

[Diego]

Arsenal had the chance to blow Chelsea and Spurs away by building a world leading stadium. They just built a bang average one. So it didn't stop their decline. ENIC seem to me to have the right long term plan. Get world class infrastructure to permanently improve the cash position. It doesn't guarantee success but at least gets us on to the same level as the biggest clubs. Look at any league in the world over a long period and you have to be in the top 3 on income to have long term success.

Arsenal built a purpose built football stadium for the team and Supporters of the Club.
Spurs seem to have built a very nice structure to cater for two NFL games per year (even the standards of the changing rooms shows this) and installed a very good sound system to cater for the odd concert booking they hope to get. Football is just a secondary thought in this and you are paying for it with the ticket prices.

 

[gooner4ever]

Some of our fans think winning a cup every 10 years or so is fine. I don't

Mate it’s better than winning a cup every 30 years.
Arsenal and Spurs have similar problems:
We have owners that are investors for the long term and they don’t have endless amounts of money.
We both have invested in new stadium that has to be paid for from limited income, with impacts on transfer funds. City didn’t even pay for theirs FFs.
We are both trying to bring through youth and build momentum to challenge, whilst the likes of City/Chelsea/Liverpool/United*keep spending so seem even further away.
finally we both seem to play by the FFP rules whereas Chelsea and City’s actions are dubious at best.
i hate to say it but these teams* will be the top 4 as they are the 4 highest spenders (ignoring net spend) and until Spurs and Arsenal spend as much or more than they do the situation won’t change. We both spend what we can afford but neither of us is going to spend the likes of £200m to strengthen in one transfer window like Chelsea are in track to do and City are likely to follow suit.
Our competition isn’t really these teams as we can’t compete on a level playing field and our new stadiums still won’t give us the funds to do so.

 

[Spurlock]

Arsenal built a purpose built football stadium for the team and Supporters of the Club.
Spurs seem to have built a very nice structure to cater for two NFL games per year (even the standards of the changing rooms shows this) and installed a very good sound system to cater for the odd concert booking they hope to get. Football is just a secondary thought in this and you are paying for it with the ticket prices.

Every professional that has been to the stadium and played on it has called it one of the best stadiums in the world

but I’ll take your word for it

 

[Libby]

Arsenal built a purpose built football stadium for the team and Supporters of the Club.
Spurs seem to have built a very nice structure to cater for two NFL games per year (even the standards of the changing rooms shows this) and installed a very good sound system to cater for the odd concert booking they hope to get. Football is just a secondary thought in this and you are paying for it with the ticket prices.

The Emirates is turd for a new stadium though. Views are very poor from the lower tier considering it was only built 15 years ago. They also get mugged off on prices too btw.

Nice arena but not a good football ground imo.

I'll reserve judgement on the Spuds ground til I've visited.

 

[Commachio]

Every professional that has been to the stadium and played on it has called it one of the best stadiums in the world

but I’ll take your word for it

it's very nice...so what?

 

[gooner4ever]

Arsenal built a purpose built football stadium for the team and Supporters of the Club.
Spurs seem to have built a very nice structure to cater for two NFL games per year (even the standards of the changing rooms shows this) and installed a very good sound system to cater for the odd concert booking they hope to get. Football is just a secondary thought in this and you are paying for it with the ticket prices.

I went to WHL for the NFL and they doubled all the food and drink prices - ****ish.
the stadium is very good, but to spend all that money on a retractable pitch is a folly. What will happen when Khan gets his way and moves his team to Wembley (London Monarchs?) and they have exclusive rights to play NFL games in London - the NFL franchises have strict rules around that kind of thing. NFL has already cancelled the next round of games at WHL (not because of COVID) so Spurs should have tied up the franchise rights before building the stadium

 

[Spurlock]

it's very nice...so what?

so it’s a shame you’ll never see Sunderland play a game there

unlucky

 

[Diego]

Every professional that has been to the stadium and played on it has called it one of the best stadiums in the world

but I’ll take your word for it

Not dissing the stadium mate, it looks great and as you say, has received high praise from everyone that has visited it. I am just pointing out that the main function in design doesn't appear to be football whereas the Emirates (and most other football grounds) was built solely for that.

 

[Tobes]

Arsenal built a purpose built football stadium for the team and Supporters of the Club.
Spurs seem to have built a very nice structure to cater for two NFL games per year (even the standards of the changing rooms shows this) and installed a very good sound system to cater for the odd concert booking they hope to get. Football is just a secondary thought in this and you are paying for it with the ticket prices.

Can’t have this.

The Emirates is a soulless bowl, due to the corporate middle tier. The acoustics are ****e. So whilst it’s a lovely stadium with great facilities, as an actual football ground it’s proper meh.

From what I’ve seen, read and heard, Spuds new spot is different gravy in terms of the acoustics and as a venue for football, with the huge home end tier. I can’t wait to visit and find out for myself, which I’m hoping will be this coming season.

 

[Commachio]

so it’s a shame you’ll never see Sunderland play a game there

unlucky

iv'e got chance of seeing sunderland play there, than you have spurs.

 

[PowerSpurs]

Arsenal built a purpose built football stadium for the team and Supporters of the Club.
Spurs seem to have built a very nice structure to cater for two NFL games per year (even the standards of the changing rooms shows this) and installed a very good sound system to cater for the odd concert booking they hope to get. Football is just a secondary thought in this and you are paying for it with the ticket prices.

It's a fantastic football stadium with the fans closer to the action than anywhere else. Ticket prices are a different issue. The ffp rules essentially mean that fans pay all the costs one way or another. At WHL it was effectively impossible to become a season ticket holder as they were in such short supply.

 

[Libby]

It's a fantastic football stadium with the fans closer to the action than anywhere else. Ticket prices are a different issue. The ffp rules essentially mean that fans pay all the costs one way or another. At WHL it was effectively impossible to become a season ticket holder as they were in such short supply.

Doubt that's true. Any other new ground perhaps.

 

[PowerSpurs]

Not dissing the stadium mate, it looks great and as you say, has received high praise from everyone that has visited it. I am just pointing out that the main function in design doesn't appear to be football whereas the Emirates (and most other football grounds) was built solely for that.

This is totally wrong. It is designed as a football stadium but with the flexibility to use for other events without damaging the pitch. The timing is **** because of corona virus but in normal conditions there would have been about 10 non football events already with only 2 of those being NFL. The additional costs will pay back very quickly.

 

[Commachio]

ut in normal conditions there would have been about 10 non football events already with only 2 of those being NFL. The additional costs will pay back very quickly.

****ing hell man.....how you you know this

are you making this **** up as you go?

 

[PowerSpurs]

Doubt that's true. Any other new ground perhaps.

I think its true for any large ground. Selhurst Park is quite similar I think.

 

[PowerSpurs]

****ing hell man.....how you you know this

are you making this **** up as you go?

One rugby union match, one boxing event and at least 3 concerts were already sellouts before they got cancelled. The Emirates hasn't had anywhere near that number. The revenue is huge.

 

[PowerSpurs]

I went to WHL for the NFL and they doubled all the food and drink prices - ****ish.
the stadium is very good, but to spend all that money on a retractable pitch is a folly. What will happen when Khan gets his way and moves his team to Wembley (London Monarchs?) and they have exclusive rights to play NFL games in London - the NFL franchises have strict rules around that kind of thing. NFL has already cancelled the next round of games at WHL (not because of COVID) so Spurs should have tied up the franchise rights before building the stadium

All the international games are back in the US next year and it was because of COVID.
They sold out of beer in the third quarter so pricing can't have been too mean. I think it was about 30% above the football prices though.

 

[gooner4ever]

One rugby union match, one boxing event and at least 3 concerts were already sellouts before they got cancelled. The Emirates hasn't had anywhere near that number. The revenue is huge.

The revenue is huge but so is your outlay

 

[gooner4ever]

All the international games are back in the US next year and it was because of COVID.
They sold out of beer in the third quarter so pricing can't have been too mean. I think it was about 30% above the football prices though.

defo double as PNP let me know the prices for food and drink before we went.
there was beer on sale throughout the game I recall -

 

[Commachio]

One rugby union match, one boxing event and at least 3 concerts were already sellouts before they got cancelled. The Emirates hasn't had anywhere near that number. The revenue is huge.

Mate the SOL is a huge concert place....And we're in league1 ffs.