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As I said, non accounting person OLM but if they are not drawing salary (supposedly) can;t they draw premiums or such..?

The award themselves a shareholders dividend. Tax is payable on this money, but not NIC, a saving of 12%. Again, it is commonplace not some Allam wheeze.
 
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New and Biggerer Plan



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Previously, If plan A does not work, plan B was to make Plan A work betterer,

Now unveiling Plan C...

Make plan B even bettererer...
 
They haven't taken a dividend out of City either (only out of Allamhouse).
So not counting that the value of the club has devalued as we drop down the leagues, have the Allams done anything wrong ( meaning illegal or dodgy) with the way they have financed the club ?
We might not agree with their methods but where do they stand against previous owners like Chapman/Blakey, Harold Needler, Christopher Needler and the Fish regime, David Lloyd, The Sheffield Mafia and the Bartlett/Duffen days ?
 
Grant (me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change(Allams) , courage to change the things I can (formation FFS) , and wisdom to know the difference) McCant,

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Previously, If plan A does not work, plan B was to make Plan A work betterer,

Now unveiling Plan C...

Make plan B even bettererer...

It'd be a hell of a job to change a flat tire on the trailer of that sucker !!
 
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So not counting that the value of the club has devalued as we drop down the leagues, have the Allams done anything wrong ( meaning illegal or dodgy) with the way they have financed the club ?
We might not agree with their methods but where do they stand against previous owners like Chapman/Blakey, Harold Needler, Christopher Needler and the Fish regime, David Lloyd, The Sheffield Mafia and the Bartlett/Duffen days ?


Illegal or dodgy, no.

In the pantheon of previous owners, that is a good one. no idea.
 
So not counting that the value of the club has devalued as we drop down the leagues, have the Allams done anything wrong ( meaning illegal or dodgy) with the way they have financed the club ?
We might not agree with their methods but where do they stand against previous owners like Chapman/Blakey, Harold Needler, Christopher Needler and the Fish regime, David Lloyd, The Sheffield Mafia and the Bartlett/Duffen days ?

They've certainly not done anything illegal, unlike some of the others on that list, but they're obviously directly responsible for the value of the club dropping, we haven't fallen down the leagues due to bad luck, it's been a managed decline.

People often say, that they know how to run a business, they're just not football people. But if they ran Allam Marine in the same way they ran Hull City, it wouldn't last a year.
 
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Explain this one then. 1970/71. The coming of Terry Neil, 34,000 for the pre season game Watney Cup match v Man Utd. Over 20,000 for the first home game rising to 30,000 plus for league games around the Christmas period. 40.000 plus for the FA Cup game in March v Stoke. By the end of the season we were down below 10,000. This under a chairman who backed the club with his own money and is still idolised today by those who remember him, namely Harold Needler. I remember those days well because I was there. Our home crowd could double in the same week if we had a good result and halve again if we suffered a defeat.
It was cheap to get in, well under £1, we still had the famous five forward line and an international centre half.
Yet home crowds halved in one season and never really recovered for a generation and more.
I think the crowds dropped off because we stopped winning and the dream of promotion to the old First Division evaporated.
Conclusion, we are a fickle bunch.
24,399 was the highest home attendance around Christmas.
Last home match of the season was 11,301 which was three days after losing at home with an attendance of 14,363. The home match before that was 19,320.
 
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I think the asset stripping debate is a rather pointless one, it's just a matter of semantics. There's no question that they've been systematically selling off the club's playing assets and investing only a tiny percentage of the revenue raised on their replacements.

Quite strange that both 'Gone for a walk' and 'Asterix' have liked this post that is essentially suggesting their argument has no basis beyond semantics over a definition.

Coherence not a particularly strong point.
 
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Paul Sewell nails it. He’d be a great owner if he had the brass.
...and part 2 ...

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Us football fans live on a diet of belief & hope, not necessarily trophies & success, only a few can have those per season. The need is to believe that the second half, the next game, the next season, will be better. Been a dearth of this at the KCom for too long [HASHTAG]#Cryingshame[/HASHTAG]

Am I right thinking he's a key sponsor? Wonder if he'll be told his money / presence are no longer welcome?
 
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