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Surely they need to repay the debt by some point, or is it a revolving facility? Would be good to know if the bank is going to demand the funds are repaid at some point they may have a deadline on their time at the club.

Based on the accounts, it seems Ehab was telling porkies and the bulk of the debt is just owed to them, not to a bank.
 
Why do they have to wait? They could just build it into the selling price.

no i dont mean sell the club, i mean kill it.
put it into administration or worse. if they have a count up and decide they are quids in.
taking into account everything sales of players, smc profits and also including tax benefits on the loans to the club ,which im sure i heard allam house had filed?
im no where near clued up on the finances, but im sure they will be determined to sink us, pummel us as much as they can. leave us floundering gasping for air dying, while they walk away laughing.
and they may even be prepared to take a loss gaining more satisfaction from plunging the knife into us.
 
no i dont mean sell the club, i mean kill it.
put it into administration or worse. if they have a count up and decide they are quids in.
taking into account everything sales of players, smc profits and also including tax benefits on the loans to the club ,which im sure i heard allam house had filed?
im no where near clued up on the finances, but im sure they will be determined to sink us, pummel us as much as they can. leave us floundering gasping for air dying, while they walk away laughing.
and they may even be prepared to take a loss gaining more satisfaction from plunging the knife into us.
Think that is exactly what they will do.
 
no i dont mean sell the club, i mean kill it.
put it into administration or worse. if they have a count up and decide they are quids in.
taking into account everything sales of players, smc profits and also including tax benefits on the loans to the club ,which im sure i heard allam house had filed?
im no where near clued up on the finances, but im sure they will be determined to sink us, pummel us as much as they can. leave us floundering gasping for air dying, while they walk away laughing.
and they may even be prepared to take a loss gaining more satisfaction from plunging the knife into us.

This...exactly this!
 
no i dont mean sell the club, i mean kill it.
put it into administration or worse. if they have a count up and decide they are quids in.
taking into account everything sales of players, smc profits and also including tax benefits on the loans to the club ,which im sure i heard allam house had filed?
im no where near clued up on the finances, but im sure they will be determined to sink us, pummel us as much as they can. leave us floundering gasping for air dying, while they walk away laughing.
and they may even be prepared to take a loss gaining more satisfaction from plunging the knife into us.
No
Think that is exactly what they will do.
No
This...exactly this!
no
 
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What is it?
Now we are all but a l1 club, the value of the club will obviously fall. Does that make it more likely it’ll sell, will the Allams now take a hit to sell or are we lumbered with them for longer

Sad times, indeed.

This was inevitable under the uninformed ownership of the Allam family. They knew and still know what they want. The sacrifices necessary to achieve that are collateral damage to them.

Don't be sucked in by their plausible manner. When it doesn't work for a ****, he becomes a bigger ****.

League 1 is nothing to be ashamed of.

Unless you're the ****s who took us there.

Still, Sunderland, at home, a BIG, fixture.
 
They'll bring more
Sad times, indeed.

This was inevitable under the uninformed ownership of the Allam family. They knew and still know what they want. The sacrifices necessary to achieve that are collateral damage to them.

Don't be sucked in by their plausible manner. When it doesn't work for a ****, he becomes a bigger ****.

League 1 is nothing to be ashamed of.

Unless you're the ****s who took us there.

Still, Sunderland, at home, a BIG, fixture.

They'll bring more than the home support the way things are going...
 
no i dont mean sell the club, i mean kill it.
put it into administration or worse. if they have a count up and decide they are quids in.
taking into account everything sales of players, smc profits and also including tax benefits on the loans to the club ,which im sure i heard allam house had filed?
im no where near clued up on the finances, but im sure they will be determined to sink us, pummel us as much as they can. leave us floundering gasping for air dying, while they walk away laughing.
and they may even be prepared to take a loss gaining more satisfaction from plunging the knife into us.

This has been my prediction for at least a couple of years now.
 
OK so now that you have realised the sale is not a done deal and the Allams are staying, what do you think will happen next?

Sorry if I'm butting in. Here's what will happen ...

They will simply carry on.
The cost cutting will continue.
They'll continue to draw interest on their 'gift'.
The asking price will continue to be around the same.
They will believe that with their magic formula, be it the current one or a new latest one, they can be successful in L1, bringing us exciting football and play offs minimum.
They might sack McCann, but on the other hand I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if they stick with him. If they do, we can only hope that he (McCann) and Enob have learnt some harsh lessons from this season, and bring in the missing experience, steel, leadership, etc, then we might even have half a chance in L1. If they haven't learnt the lessons and don't bring in what's missing then we'll really struggle again, quite possibly even ending in anothe relegation. However, I do think it will be the former and we'll do ok (as even they can't be that stupid ... errm, or can they?).
Support will be further decimated due to the fall to L1 and the Allams still being here. The club will remain toxic.
There will be some staged media interviews where Enob will pretend to extend olive branches etc etc. but it will be mainly just more bullshit and lies as the owners just can't help themselves; that's just the way they are, arrogant twats especially Enob who actually isn't that bright - but some will fall for it.
The vast majority of fans will, rightly, continue to want the Allams out of the club so that a more positive new era can begin. It won't happen.
 
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OK so now that you have realised the sale is not a done deal and the Allams are staying, what do you think will happen next?
They will continue
You and others appear to forget they tried and partially made an back handed apology and came back to games. Remember?
they really don’t think about you fans like you think they do
It’s not some personal vendetta they don’t give a ****
 
Sorry if I'm butting in. Here's what will happen ...

They will simply carry on.
The cost cutting will continue.
They'll continue to draw interest on their 'gift'.
The asking price will continue to be around the same.
They will believe that with their magic formula, be it the current one or a new latest one, they can be successful in L1, bringing us exciting football and play offs minimum.
They might sack McCann, but on the other hand I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if they stick with him. If they do, we can only hope that he (McCann) and Enob have learnt some harsh lessons from this season, and bring in the missing experience, steel, leadership, etc, then we might even have half a chance in L1. If they haven't learnt the lessons and don't bring in what's missing then we'll really struggle again, quite possibly even ending in anothe relegation. However, I do think it will be the former and we'll do ok (as even they can't be that stupid ... errm, or can they?).
Support will be further decimated due to the fall to L1 and the Allams still being here. The club will remain toxic.
There will be some staged media interviews where Enob will pretend to extend olive branches etc etc.
The vast majority of fans will, rightly, continue to want the Allams out of the club so that a more positive new era can begin. It won't happen.

The club will receive the staged payments from player sales.
Some of our current players will sell at a profit and will continue to fund the interest payments.
Gate revenues will fall and the non football side of the club will need to be supported by player sales.
The wage cap will not apply to us for the first season.
A new manager will be appointed and it will be a name we don’t have to google, but no one else will know who he is.
We will be sponsored by a non gambling company.
The current owners will continue to draw on their interest, why wouldn’t they, a bank would.
I will still support Hull City no matter what the league we are, I may not have membership, but that is more to do with family than anything.
 
Some of our current players will sell at a profit and will continue to fund the interest payments.

That's the theory, but in reality, we've not sold a single player for a profit outside of players Bruce signed years ago.

And after the past month, can anyone see another club coming in with a big bid for any of our players?
 
That's the theory, but in reality, we've not sold a single player for a profit outside of players Bruce signed years ago.

And after the past month, can anyone see another club coming in with a big bid for any of our players?
I don’t think there will be big bids. If we can get six figures for any players they will be gone.