With all the focus on Robert Jenrick's dodgy dealings, I hope Keir Starmer doesn't do something stupid that takes attention away from that and lets him off the hook
...oh for ****'s sake
And in case anyone is curious, here is the "antisemitic conspiracy theory" within the article
“The tactics used by the police in America, kneeling on George Floyd’s neck, that was learnt from seminars with Israeli secret services.”
Of course, it's not as if any credible bodies have stated this is the case before or...oh, wait, they have
https://www.amnestyusa.org/with-who...-with-a-chronic-human-rights-violator-israel/
Oh well, at least the Board of Deputies are happy...
Amnesty have issued a statement denying that they've ever made any such connection:I don't regard Amnesty, for all their good work, as an unbiased source in this respect. Nor is there any corroboration of the facts except what is effectively a statement within the article. It mentions "thousands" without elaborating on that. Name some people, prove it happened, explain how their methods changed as a result of this alleged training. Show how this particular kneeling technique was in fact an Israeli invention. And no, criticism of the Israeli state is not per se anti-semitism. However, there are many horrendous regimes in this world, yet Israel continues to be reported on. Does it do bad things? Absolutely. But omission of criticism of other states to the same extent needs to be monitored to ensure that the motives behind reporting/non-reporting remain pure and factual, and not based on other criteria.
Yeah, about that...Amnesty have issued a statement denying that they've ever made any such connection:
https://www.newstatesman.com/politi...ver-reported-neck-kneeling-taught-israelis-us
I think that is the construction the media put on it. In the latest controversy Long-Bailey (or Maxine Peake) never suggested it was a Jewish thing, but an Israeli thing.To be honest, arguing that the the Israeli state taught the American Police the kneeling on the neck thing is beyond a joke.
There are a lot of things to condemn the Israeli government for but involvement of any kind in the brutality dished out by the US police is not one of them.
The US is the richest nation on earth and it alone is responsible for how it's law enforcement practices.
We have the right to condemn thd human rights abuses of the Israeli state the aparthied like treatment of Palestinian people, the land thefts etc.
To criticise the behaviour of the Israeli government is not anti semitic.
I disagree with almost everything the US government does but I am not anti American. I could say the same of other countries.
It is a failure of some of the left that they are willing to say things about Israel which are conspiracy theory bollocks or down right anti semitic.
Livingston being a prime example.
I consider myself a socialist.
I immensely disagree with how the UN continues to allow Israel to abuse Palestinians. I boycott Israeli goods just as I did with South African goods under Apartheid but I have never gone along with any anti semitic comments, conspiracy theories or used the term Israeli government and Jewish as interchangeable so I have no idea why others who claim they are on the left do.
To be clear I am not accusing anyone here of doing this.
I think that is the construction the media put on it. In the latest controversy Long-Bailey (or Maxine Peake) never suggested it was a Jewish thing, but an Israeli thing.
Whilst it is wrong to suggest American police were shown how to kill Black civilians (American law enforcement were doing that before Israel existed) it is a fact that Israeli agents have provided the US training on how to deal with terrorists.
To be honest, arguing that the the Israeli state taught the American Police the kneeling on the neck thing is beyond a joke.
There are a lot of things to condemn the Israeli government for but involvement of any kind in the brutality dished out by the US police is not one of them.
The US is the richest nation on earth and it alone is responsible for how it's law enforcement practices.
We have the right to condemn thd human rights abuses of the Israeli state the aparthied like treatment of Palestinian people, the land thefts etc.
To criticise the behaviour of the Israeli government is not anti semitic.
I disagree with almost everything the US government does but I am not anti American. I could say the same of other countries.
It is a failure of some of the left that they are willing to say things about Israel which are conspiracy theory bollocks or down right anti semitic.
Livingston being a prime example.
I consider myself a socialist.
I immensely disagree with how the UN continues to allow Israel to abuse Palestinians. I boycott Israeli goods just as I did with South African goods under Apartheid but I have never gone along with any anti semitic comments, conspiracy theories or used the term Israeli government and Jewish as interchangeable so I have no idea why others who claim they are on the left do.
To be clear I am not accusing anyone here of doing this.



Most countries have statues of the winners, not the runners-up...Elizabeth Warren has filed legislation that would require the Pentagon to remove all confederate monuments and rename US military bases.
Why the hell do they have bases named after traitors, anyway? Very strange.
I thought that conservatives didn't like participation trophies?Most countries have statues of the winners, not the runners-up...

The Fail really aren't letting this one go, are they? Bodger and Generic getting hunted by their own. Shame!You must log in or register to see media
