Off Topic A serious question about racism

[Owld Feller]

Well 3 different people have written comments so far, one of them being me and according to you, 2 of those people are doing a 'wiggle wiggle' and by that, I assume people are being deliberately avoidant. The last poster was so bewildered by your responses he considered it was a wind-up. He was also quite articulate and suggested it might be something to do with the framing of the question

There are lots of negative stereotypes, for instance we all know that Durham is nothing but an ugly industrial wasteland

I give up, it's impossible to have a debate with someone who ignores questions and just continues to spout his mantra whilst attempting to disguise his intended insults.

 

[Shameless]

The OP has more form than shergar for this sort of thing.

Picking drink induced fights on the internet.

There is something VERY WRONG with this.

I wonder upon whom the ignominy has bestowed blessings

I give up, it's impossible to have a debate with someone who ignores questions and just continues to spout his mantra whilst attempting to disguise his intended insults.

No ...I'm trying to continue the dialogue

Please make your question more clear or write it in another way or do summit!

 

[Owld Feller]

I wonder upon whom the ignominy has bestowed blessings

No ...I'm trying to continue the dialogue

Please make your question more clear or write it in another way or do summit!

I'm making my final reply to any of your posts and would suggest you stop using words you don't understand!

It's not big and it's not clever - quite the opposite!

Is that clear enough for you?

 

[Ozzymac]

I wonder upon whom the ignominy has bestowed blessings

No ...I'm trying to continue the dialogue

Please make your question more clear or write it in another way or do summit!

I would have thought that the question was fairly simple.

Do you think that some people have benefitted from the negative stereotypes that society may bestow upon them?

Might also add that not only does the word ignominy seem out of context (a bit like old statues) it appears that you've used the word to seem all intelligent then finished with "summit"

Why do you want Owld Fella to climb to the top of a mountain or hill? Or are you just trying to sound not intelligent?

 

[Sinner]

I would have thought that the question was fairly simple.

Do you think that some people have benefitted from the negative stereotypes that society may bestow upon them?

Not what I read
Pretty sure it was about benefitting from not fitting a racial stereotype and hiding behind said stereotype when it suits.
Few layers to the question hence the debate.
I'm not entirely sure what motivated the initial post but it has got a reaction.

 

[Shameless]

I'm making my final reply to any of your posts and would suggest you stop using words you don't understand!

It's not big and it's not clever - quite the opposite!

Is that clear enough for you?

Seriously, I want to answer the question

Please re-frame it

 

[Ozzymac]

Not what I read
Pretty sure it was about benefitting from not fitting a racial stereotype and hiding behind said stereotype when it suits.
Few layers to the question hence the debate.
I'm not entirely sure what motivated the initial post but it has got a reaction.

Fair enough.

I'd say yes, quite a few do and it doesn't just apply to racial stereotypes. It's worth remembering that stereotypes are created by the actions/habits seen by many.

Take a show we have here called Border Security (It's to do with people coming through immigration and customs at airports). It's amazing how well one particular race appear to understand questions until they've been caught doing something wrong and then suddenly they can't understand english.

 

[Shameless]

I give up, it's impossible to have a debate with someone who ignores questions and just continues to spout his mantra whilst attempting to disguise his intended insults.

If you are referring to the last poster, I thought he was relatively civil and polite

 

[Shameless]

Fair enough.

I'd say yes, quite a few do and it doesn't just apply to racial stereotypes. It's worth remembering that stereotypes are created by the actions/habits seen by many.

Take a show we have here called Border Security (It's to do with people coming through immigration and customs at airports). It's amazing how well one particular race appear to understand questions until they've been caught doing something wrong and then suddenly they can't understand english.

I don't deny that people of ethnic minorities are at times very keen to pull the race card

...ref post where I posted;-

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[Shameless]

Fair enough.

I'd say yes, quite a few do and it doesn't just apply to racial stereotypes. It's worth remembering that stereotypes are created by the actions/habits seen by many.

And where do you 'see' this? If it is via the public broadcast TV media and distributed newspapers (as opposed to some selectively bias Internet sites as sources of information) then do you also accept it as reliable portrayal of the way things are?

 

[Sunderpitt]

I've read quite a lot of the owld feller posts on other topics and thought them useful contributions...

BUT ( a big but) on this thread I have to assume him and Tommy Robinson are quite close...

 

[Sinner]

Fair enough.

I'd say yes, quite a few do and it doesn't just apply to racial stereotypes. It's worth remembering that stereotypes are created by the actions/habits seen by many.

Take a show we have here called Border Security (It's to do with people coming through immigration and customs at airports). It's amazing how well one particular race appear to understand questions until they've been caught doing something wrong and then suddenly they can't understand english.

I've watched that! Are you referring to the Koreans and Thais?
I have to admit I was pretty shocked by the attitude to the indigenous folk in Oz when I was there. The deaths in police custody are also remarkable, for want of better term.
Not related to your post btw, just remembering. Tbf I was much more politically aware/correct when I went to Oz than as a younger man who left the north east packed with racist preconceptions. Thankfully I lost them fairly quickly as I realise life was very different outside my white Jarrow bubble.

 

[Shameless]

I would have thought that the question was fairly simple.

UNO: Do you think that some people have benefitted from the negative stereotypes that society may bestow upon them?

DUO: Might also add that not only does the word ignominy seem out of context (a bit like old statues) it appears that you've used the word to seem all intelligent then finished with "summit"

TRES: Why do you want Owld Fella to climb to the top of a mountain or hill? (QUATRO: not responding to this bit) Or are you just trying to sound not intelligent?

I have tried to get to this: Perhaps we need to be more clear or specific with the word stereotypes in this context

DUO: just my observation ,,,take it or leave it with sweet sorrow: either or both

and finally TRES: Why do I "want Owld Fella to climb to the top of a mountain? But for the exercise which would probably be good for any of us ...To put it another way, I genuinely do not wish anything of the sort and 3 different people have run aground trying to engage in an answer

 

[Smug in Boots]

Well 3 different people have written comments so far, one of them being me and according to you, 2 of those people are doing a 'wiggle wiggle' and by that, I assume people are being deliberately avoidant. The last poster was so bewildered by your responses he considered it was a wind-up. He was also quite articulate and suggested it might be something to do with the framing of the question

There are lots of negative stereotypes, for instance we all know that Durham is nothing but an ugly industrial wasteland

The OP has more form than shergar for this sort of thing.

Picking drink induced fights on the internet.

There is something VERY WRONG with this.

Are these some of those 'ad hominem' responses we keep hearing so much about

 

[Shameless]

Are these some of those 'ad hominem' responses we keep hearing so much about

Yes it probably is in the case of one of those illustrations

 

[Sinner]

Are these some of those 'ad hominem' responses we keep hearing so much about

Owld fella went for Shameless from first post, then backed off in outrage. Not ad hominem, more passive aggressive but I assume they have history.
I'm getting the impression Owld Fella is not a social worker, might be wrong and not for the first time.

 

[Owld Feller]

Owld fella went for Shameless from first post, then backed off in outrage. Not ad hominem, more passive aggressive but I assume they have history.
I'm getting the impression Owld Fella is not a social worker, might be wrong and not for the first time.

Please explain with proof/examples.

 

[Sinner]

Please explain with proof/examples.

Will first couple of posts do?

Not very hard.

In particular, a reply/opinion would be much appreciated from @@Shameless , who appears to view himself as the supreme judge on this matter.

It wouldbe a typical reaction from the stereotypical 'bigmouth' who cannot support his views when challenged.

Sure I could dig out more but got me papers to read.

 

[Shameless]

but I assume they have history.

None whatsoever

 

[Sinner]

None whatsoever

Well he doesn't seem to like you

You seem perfectly reasonable to me.