1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Off Topic The Politics Thread

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

?

Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,557
    Depends mate....I guess if their wives are blond haired Lithuanian stunners I can somehow get it......would be different if they’ve got a Mrs who comes from Nigeria though ;)
     
    #52021
  2. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,557


    I always think of this when the race debate is being aired........
     
    #52022
    BobbyD and Quite Possibly Raving like this.
  3. Tobes

    Tobes Warden
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2012
    Messages:
    72,661
    Likes Received:
    57,082
    We’ve become such a binary ‘pick your side and stick with them regardless’ society in recent years that nuanced debate is more difficult than its ever been imo mate.

    I’m not ashamed to admit that I knew absolutely nothing about Colston until last weekend, and I speak as someone who’s from Liverpool, a city who’s slave trade past lead to the creation of the International Slavery museum at the Albert Dock, a place I’ve visited a couple of times.

    However, I do now, as I researched him and more importantly the history of both the statue itself and the local battle to see it removed, that been going on for the last 20-30 years. Plenty of locals did their utmost to have it rightly removed and were blocked at every turn, even the erection of a second plaque explaining his slave trade past was blocked - notably by a Tory councillor called Richard Eddy (google him).

    So I completely understand why in the context of a BLM protest that particular statue attracted the focus of locals, who’d been failed by the local politicians and decided to take direct action.

    The wider point about racism in our society is way more complex, have things improved in the last 40 years? Of course they have, is the issue now firmly a thing of the past? Absolutely not.
     
    #52023
  4. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,557
    A good and fair post......You never cease to amaze me Tobes ;)

    In the words of Raving.......‘we are just on a different stage of the same journey’
     
    #52024
    Willhoops and Tobes like this.
  5. Willhoops

    Willhoops Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2017
    Messages:
    8,826
    Likes Received:
    8,854
    You’ve not had the Peter Saxton experience. When there was a perm board politics thread he was ...... something... he also provided this entire forum with the most amazing moment when he accidentally posted something that wasn’t meant for the forum... he was meaning to respond to a dominatrix on Twitter <laugh>
     
    #52025
  6. pompeymeowth

    pompeymeowth Prepare for trouble x
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    25,779
    Likes Received:
    15,669
    And foreign Mistresses too "allegedly"
     
    #52026
    Willhoops likes this.
  7. pompeymeowth

    pompeymeowth Prepare for trouble x
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    25,779
    Likes Received:
    15,669
    Orchidgate, the greatest moment on any forum, in the world, ever.
     
    #52027
    Tobes and Willhoops like this.
  8. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    22,785
    Likes Received:
    11,186
    Someone's defaced Robert the Bruce statue with ’racist king’. <doh>
    And I believe the statue of the Mel Gibson Scottish fella also got a paint job
    Sorry I see you posted earlier.
     
    #52028
  9. Willhoops

    Willhoops Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2017
    Messages:
    8,826
    Likes Received:
    8,854
    He ****ed up like no other... so how do you get yourself off the hook? Get Kustard in to cover your back <laugh>
     
    #52029
    pompeymeowth likes this.
  10. pompeymeowth

    pompeymeowth Prepare for trouble x
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    25,779
    Likes Received:
    15,669
    The forum idiot and another closet racist
     
    #52030
    Willhoops likes this.

  11. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,557
    Eh ? Where you getting this info from Ellers......I mean I am genuinely interested but can’t find any note of that statue being vandalised recently.......have you got a link ??
     
    #52031
  12. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,557


    That’s all I could get from twitter
     
    #52032
  13. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2011
    Messages:
    14,361
    Likes Received:
    16,167
    That's the simplicity of some people I'm afraid. They accept being lied to as it suits their agenda or beliefs. Some even make excuses for it which is quite unbelievable really. This is part of the problem with society. Lies, greed, corruption has become widely accepted.
     
    #52033
    Last edited: Jun 12, 2020
    Tobes and Willhoops like this.
  14. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2011
    Messages:
    22,785
    Likes Received:
    11,186
    mmm apologees it would appear the tweet I read must have been referring to an old attack.
    upload_2020-6-12_21-39-15.jpeg
     
    #52034
  15. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,557
    Ah ok, apology accepted. That is the graffiti that was put, rather bizarrely on Robert The Bruce’s statue.......two completely different things. Easy mistake to make but please be careful next time.
    However it does emphasise Wills point about rumours, stories and how mistakes and half truths become absolute certainty via social media.
     
    #52035
    Willhoops likes this.
  16. Tobes

    Tobes Warden
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2012
    Messages:
    72,661
    Likes Received:
    57,082
    You’ve not seen his ‘secret’ Twitter account have you? It’s quite something.

    For a 67 year old, 22 stone, married bloke, it has to be seen to be believed. He’s one sick old **** him.
     
    #52036
  17. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2011
    Messages:
    14,743
    Likes Received:
    16,557
    Tonight could be the night.......who’s it gonna be ????
     
    #52037
  18. Willhoops

    Willhoops Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2017
    Messages:
    8,826
    Likes Received:
    8,854
    It’s this one isn’t it? And he has I pm’d him a couple of bits <laugh><laugh><laugh> B49E7DCD-0D78-449F-A9FE-F1176C5460E5.png
     
    #52038
    Tobes likes this.
  19. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2013
    Messages:
    24,616
    Likes Received:
    24,027
    Anyone that thinks that racism in this country is a thing of the past should have been in the pub (yes!) with me this afternoon. I felt like I was the copper out of Life on Mars who'd gone back to 1973. All brought back into the open by the BLM protests. It was only sleeping.
     
    #52039
    Tobes and Willhoops like this.
  20. Willhoops

    Willhoops Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2017
    Messages:
    8,826
    Likes Received:
    8,854
    #52040

Share This Page