Interestingly, the graphic shows that Spain was the biggest source. What did we do? Allow thousands of football supporters into the country from Spain to watch a football match.
I am not even sure I understand tonight's words of wisdom regarding a single person forming a support bubble to another household. All I can understand is that hubbie and I together still cannot see my granddaughter in the house.. But two single people can spend the night together in a support bubble
I'm not sure how they can evaluate that. If we get 20,000 Spanish flying in everyday and a 15% increase due to the football match, that must have had some effect on the spread in the UK, particularly that many would have been from Madrid, plus as football fans they would have come into contact with thousands of others in the preceding weeks. In addition, most would have used public transport to and from the stadium on the day!
Those on here over 60 will know that you get sent a bowel cancer test (**** on a stick) kit shortly after your 60th birthday and every two years thereafter. I recently turned 66 and had been expecting the test in the post, but then realised that it would probably be delayed due to Coronavirus. It turns out that, due to the NHS decks being cleared for Covid-19, there are currently over 2 million people in the UK waiting for cancer screening and around 12,750 awaiting cancer surgery. Chemotherapy and Radiotherapy treatments are also being affected. How many lives will the this cost? Excess deaths will continue to be high long after Covid-19 has ceased being a major factor. https://scienceblog.cancerresearchu...e-waiting-for-screening-tests-and-treatments/
I agree there is not enough evidence to say for certain what has happened to whom and when? We can't say for sure the impact of those fans. It was outdoors and we don't know who or if any had the virus and passed it on? The great unknown I'm afraid.
Not actually the great unknown Ellers...the genetics of change of the virus, tells us when the virus came to the country (they analyse the virus from people who got Covid on a certain date and then they can trace it back to where it came from...read the article the article says The study estimates 80% of those initial cases arrived in the country between 28 Feb and 29 March - the time the UK was debating whether to lockdown. After this point, the number of new imported cases diminished rapidly. From the DNA of the virus they can tell where itt came from using little changes in the viral DNA . Sorry for bad copy from the article but 33.6 % is from Spain, 28.5 from France, 14.4 from Italy. the 0.1% is from China
Beth I was actually saying in General. If some poor person catches it... we don't know if it was a gym in a home/hospital or on Mars. I am only quoting a scientist there.
That is what the world beating trace and track is for. You can go backwards as well as forward in tracing. Every new person should be able to be traced back to where they might have got it. E.g if I got symptoms tomorrow...they would be able Beth got it at Tescos on Monday.....because that is the only place she has been since a week last Wednesday when she went for a walk with her daughter in park. Daughter is Covid clear...so is there any other outbreaks starting from Tescos on Monday. It is a world beating system.
Third of people in England who tested positive for Covid-19 could not be contacted by new Test and Trace system
Loved it when Starmer told Johnson that we dont need your hyperbole, just an effective system will suffice.
Baroness Dido Harding ex CEO of TalkTalk, who didn’t know whether they had encrypted customer data when they had a massive data leak in 2015, which cost the company £60m and 95,000 customers, is in charge of test and trace. She has zero clinical expertise and a negative record on data protection. However, she is a Tory peer and has been chair of something called NHS Improvement, while her husband John Penrose MP, is on the board of a right wing think tank called 1828, which calls for the NHS and Public Health England to be abolished. A third of people diagnosed positive are declining to give their contact details to test and trace, and who the **** can blame them. Handjob: ‘we’ve been incredibly frank about the fact that test and trace will get better and better’. Jolly D, we’ll take your word for it, it’s not as if you are a serial liar is it?
Actually many 'third world' countries have excellent virus control systems because of Ebola and Yellow Fever experience...
