Off Topic Coronavirus

  • Please bear with us on the new site integration and fixing any known bugs over the coming days. If you can not log in please try resetting your password and check your spam box. If you have tried these steps and are still struggling email [email protected] with your username/registered email address
  • Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!
Except that Sweden's death graph seems to be going upwards, while other countries are in decline at present
? Their deaths per day are going down, but the number of recorded infections are going up. As are the global number of infections, which no one seems bothered about, now at the highest daily levels yet.
I must admit that I didn't interrogate the numbers in the table. Having done so, it seems te be based on daily death rates (i.e. 320 per day) since week-ending March 20th, so not giving the full picture and even then the totals seem too low. The source you quote is almost certainly more reliable but the overall picture is not much different.
it all adds to the confusion, frustration and eventually irritation when not only inaccurate data is thrown about, but conflicting currencies and metrics are used (not saying one is right and the other is wrong). Gives the politicos a get out.

On a totally different matter I read a review (Sunday Times) of a book this morning that I am going to get and think you might like as well - Angrynomics by Eric Lonergan and Mark Blyth - one a hedge fund manager the other a political economist, both left wing but neither prisoners of the old fashioned left wing economics. Sounds good, both in its explanation of Brexit, Trump, populism etc and in its suggested responses. I was taken by the idea that ongoing taxes on tech firms with dominant market positions/ near monopolies like google, amazon etc should fund the beginnings of a universal basic income. The reviewer pointed out that, after a brief spasm of togetherness at the beginning of the pandemic we are now getting angry again, and this will worsen as people note that the rich found isolation easy.
 
Last edited:
cannot see China on the list...I would have thought, that if this originated from there then the number of casualties would be high. Unless of course they haven't reported anything......
 
Don’t know where you got that graphic from Strolls but it’s wrong. 4.77 deaths per million people gives us a total deaths of 320 (4.77 x 67 - UK population as 67 million). In fact the death rate is 614 per million, which puts us 4th, behind SAN Marino, Belgium and Andorra. Sweden is down in 7th with 483 deaths per million, probably a decent trade for its economy.

This is the source I refer to. All the usual caveats about competence of data collection and different metrics. Striking that the UK doesn’t even measure some things most other do.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Those death rates you quote are similar to what I find in vg.no. Generally, they report a lot of rubbish but they do have a lot of interesting data, maps and graphs for Covid 19 in Norway, but also separately for the Nordic Countries, and Globally, if you are interested.
 
  • Like
Reactions: sb_73
China reporting new infections, Rome also. Is the second wave on it's way?
Well I hope not because if it is , we have not got a hope of this country obeying a second lock down due to Dominic Cummings or the economy recovering for some time yet. Stroller might yet get his chance to be proved right that this was all a bit of unnecessary panic
 
  • Like
Reactions: bobmid
out of curiosity, who has been tested for Covid?
And should everyone be tested? ( I know that the test is only relevant on the day you have it, but if it shows that you have the virus but don't spread it maybe this is something that should be investigated. I have no issues taking the test if this was to be made compulsory).
 
out of curiosity, who has been tested for Covid?
And should everyone be tested? ( I know that the test is only relevant on the day you have it, but if it shows that you have the virus but don't spread it maybe this is something that should be investigated. I have no issues taking the test if this was to be made compulsory).

i had a test. This was around 3 weeks ago but i've still not received any results.

I had a fever for a day and was feeling a bit light headed. After i recovered from that i had a sore throat but i'm feeling great now. My wife was absolutely fine
 
  • Like
Reactions: Ninj
Coronavirus: Man dubbed ‘miracle child’ after Covid-19 recovery receives $1.1m hospital bill


Danielle Zoellner
7 hrs ago
You must log in or register to see images
© Provided by The Independent
A Seattle man who was dubbed “the miracle child” when he recovered from the coronavirus after being the longest-hospitalised patient has now received a $1.1m bill for his lengthy stay.

Michael Flor, 70, almost died from the novel virus, but he joked his hospital bill also almost killed him after his 62-day stay rounded up to $1.1m in fees.

“I opened it and said, ‘Holy (expletive)!,” the Washington resident told the Seattle Times.

The 181-page hospital bill listed all the treatments and fees Mr Flor racked up while staying at Swedish Medical Centre in Issaquah, and the official amount owed stands at $1,122,501.04.

Fortunately for Mr Flor, he was on Medicare when entering the facility, which means a majority of the bill will be covered.

The US government could also foot portions or the entirety of the bill because Congress set aside $100bn to help hospitals and insurance companies amid the pandemic. But officials have warned this amount might not be enough, with estimates reaching $500bn in costs to treat US coronavirus patients.


0
Mr Flor told the newspaper he held some “survivor’s guilt” from surviving the virus, which often attacks the upper respiratory system. The hospital bill only added to that guilt

“I feel guilty about surviving,” he said. “There’s a sense of ‘why me?’ Why did I deserve all this? Looking at the incredible cost of it all definitely adds to that survivor’s guilt.”

The bill included nearly 3,000 itemized charges the man accumulated while staying in the hospital.

When breaking down the bill, $408,912 was charged for the 42 days Mr Flor was in an intensive care room equipped with a special isolation chamber. Then an additional $82,215 was charged for the ventilator he used for 29 days.

Two of the days when Mr Flor was in the hospital involved his hearts, lungs, and kidneys all failing, bringing him close to death. Those two days racked up $100,000 in charges as doctors worked to save the man’s life, according to the Seattle Times.

Part of Mr Flor’s guilt comes from the understanding that someone is paying for the $1.1m bill.

“It was a million bucks to save my life, and of course I’d say that’s money well-spent,” he said. “But I also know I might be the only one saying that.”
 
there is a part of me that thinks that this is part of an "ethnic cleansing" process, which would have been released at some point however the "virus" escaped from the lab it is was being worked on. And yes, I do blame the Chinese...…..especially for the fact they do not provide answers to questions which might just help find a cure....
I
 
Yeah credit to the government they’ve really turned things around.
Look I didn’t vote the torries in or any body else at the election, yes they’ve made mistakes & should’ve acted quicker & also lockdown sooner & a full lockdown, shut the borders like other countries, sorted out the health care, but they didn’t & no one new the devastation of this virus would bring, I’m sure when this eventually dies down they will hold there hands up & admit their mistakes.
But to keep going on about this day after day is boring
 
That's f*cking ridiculous, what's the point?...

no ****ing idea. It was one of those mail order thingies. It arrived, i self tested and sent it back in the post (all picked up by a specialist courier).

The test arrived super quick. The results i'm not expecting back at all.
 
no ****ing idea. It was one of those mail order thingies. It arrived, i self tested and sent it back in the post (all picked up by a specialist courier).

The test arrived super quick. The results i'm not expecting back at all.

Less reliable than Boris at a Cobra meeting
 
  • Like
Reactions: bobmid