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[aberdude]

You don’t get it. After Cummings masterminded Brexit and the landslide victory, he can do whatever the **** he wants

Laugh and your OK with that.....is there any point in Boris or any other cabinet member if this lobbyist is calling the shots.

 

[Welshie]

It’s a marathon not a sprint. It would’ve been virtually impossible to overturn the polls entirely but it’s a better start than could have been expected. More to do with Johnson/Tory incompetence than Starmer IMO but he’s still come across well. A long time to appeal to the ‘working class Tories’ who voted Tory for the first time last year. The ones who treat politics like football and support their side no matter how many policies they introduce that directly harm them probably can’t be reached, sadly.

It will bounce back for the Conservatives, they're still seen as more competent on the economy, international politics and immigration.

Once all this dies down, which in most peoples minds it already has, the Brexit chat will start again and Starmer will **** it all up.

 

[FosseFilberto]

But they're still quite far ahead, I mean, among the 1,000 people they asked. I presume we are discussing the Yougov poll which is the one the Guardian used, I know you read the Guardian.

Nope ... don't read any paper tbh ... but thanks for contributing

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

It will bounce back for the Conservatives, they're still seen as more competent on the economy, international politics and immigration.

Once all this dies down, which in most peoples minds it already has, the Brexit chat will start again and Starmer will **** it all up.

If you say so, mate. They’re doing a blinding job on all those fronts.

 

[FosseFilberto]

It will bounce back for the Conservatives, they're still seen as more competent on the economy, international politics and immigration.

Once all this dies down, which in most peoples minds it already has, the Brexit chat will start again and Starmer will **** it all up.

Unfortunately for the Tories, Starmer will likely have reduced Bojob to a gibbering mess during PM question times by then.

 

[Looney Leftie]

It will bounce back for the Conservatives, they're still seen as more competent on the economy, international politics and immigration.

Once all this dies down, which in most peoples minds it already has, the Brexit chat will start again and Starmer will **** it all up.

Not that we are supposed to be talking brexit here. Not sure how any party other than the government will have any say.

 

[Welshie]

If you say so, mate. They’re doing a blinding job on all those fronts.

I'm just using the same polling that is lorded when Labour close the gap slightly, generally in those areas the Tories have came out looking strong around every election. Its a huge hurdle that Labour need to get over.

Especially immigration, I fundementally don't agree with whatever strategist in the party advised that the word should not even be mentioned. Its easily Labours weakest area.

 

[Welshie]

Not that we are supposed to be talking brexit here. Not sure how any party other than the government will have any say.

I presume Starmers efforts to turn Boris into a "blabbering mess" over these coming years will involve him discussing the Torys handling of leaving the EU.

He's a staunch Europhile, Labours base is evidently not.

 

[FosseFilberto]

I presume Starmers efforts to turn Boris into a "blabbering mess" over these coming years will involve him discussing the Torys handling of leaving the EU.

He's a staunch Europhile, Labours base is evidently not.

Starmer would likely destroy Bojob in all subject matters ... with the possible exception of the nuances of taking a hot crumpet from behind at the Old Etonian *** initiation ceremony

 

[Looney Leftie]

I presume Starmers efforts to turn Boris into a "blabbering mess" over these coming years will involve him discussing the Torys handling of leaving the EU.

He's a staunch Europhile, Labours base is evidently not.

I'm not sure this polarised view is still relevant. Brexit has happened, what is now on the table is the trade agreement.

Starmer doesn't really need to do very much other than highlight deficiencies and failings.

 

[Welshie]

I'm not sure this polarised view is still relevant. Brexit has happened, what is now on the table is the trade agreement.

Starmer doesn't really need to do very much other than highlight deficiencies and failings.

But everything he says can simply be dismissed as the whining of a remainer. That's Starmers issue.

I think he'll do OK, he's a boring centrist so I doubt he can overturn the majority but an economic collapse might happen. Then he'll be given a free pass to number 10.

 

[FosseFilberto]

I'm not sure this polarised view is still relevant. Brexit has happened, what is now on the table is the trade agreement.

Starmer doesn't really need to do very much other than highlight deficiencies and failings.

... which is likely to leave him with no time for owt else

 

[Saf]

Laugh and your OK with that.....is there any point in Boris or any other cabinet member if this lobbyist is calling the shots.

Probably not but Dominic Cummings is all we need to run this country tbf. The man is a genius.

 

[remembercolinlee]

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[Saf]

I’m very confident the truth will see off Keir at the next election

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[Looney Leftie]

But everything he says can simply be dismissed as the whining of a remainer. That's Starmers issue.

I think he'll do OK, he's a boring centrist so I doubt he can overturn the majority but an economic collapse might happen. Then he'll be given a free pass to number 10.

In which case we agree that no other party will influence brexit at this time. The Tories own it.

I'm also not convinced Starmer is as centrist as many assume, although he looks the part.

Not sure any recent election has overturned a majority of 80 and it will be even harder once the seats are dropped to 600. So we agree that it takes a monumental screw up for the Tories to lose power, although so far the evidence is they are up to this task.

 

[FosseFilberto]

Probably not but Dominic Cummings is all we need to run this country tbf. The man is a genius.

The only one the Tories have, unfortunately ... but also the prime reason for voters turning away from them ... hope he stays for the long term and, at the very least, until the next election... just imagine the piss taking

 

[aberdude]

Probably not but Dominic Cummings is all we need to run this country tbf. The man is a genius.

The man is just doing what he's been told...... Don't consider him anything more than a bullshit puppet playing the people for corporate money

 

[Saf]

The only one the Tories have, unfortunately ... but also the prime reason for voters turning away from them ... hope he stays for the long term and, at the very least, until the next election... just imagine the piss taking

Yeah like Brexit and the last election.

Chin up. You’ll win one eventually. Maybe

 

[Saf]

But everything he says can simply be dismissed as the whining of a remainer. That's Starmers issue.

I think he'll do OK, he's a boring centrist so I doubt he can overturn the majority but an economic collapse might happen. Then he'll be given a free pass to number 10.

Well Stan said after the Brexit vote that the Conservatives wouldn’t get in for a generation. Labour need to bin off all the hard left fruitcakes or they might as well fold that party. The working class up here have nothing in common with that scummy lot anymore.