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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

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    Exactly......it’s truly shocking, in my opinion, that he is being allowed to get away with it and the investigation is being swept under the carpet.
    And yet Starmer gets lambasted for buying some land for his old girls donkeys.......the worlds gone ****ing mad.
     
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  2. bobmid

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    Makes you wonder doesnt it
     
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    Let’s get a few things straight I never mocked you about the shortage of plasterboard and your job.
    What actually happened when we were all discussing Brexit you mentioning plasterboard which I said was a ridiculous thing to bring up when we were talking about the effects of the economy? You have lied here. I did call you ‘ plasterboard bob’ as a joke for your idiotic remarks. That is what happened. It was never about you personally.

    I don’t really share much about family and work but I answered a post the other day about my work with children and the classes I take. I wish I had because idiots like you will only use them against someone because you are too stupid to debate. What I didn’t do was elaborate. I will now:

    Last term I was helpIng a12 yr old girl whose mother is dying of cancer. Since her mum's diagnosis her schoolwork/life has fallen apart (as she is helping out more at home and distraught about the situation). She comes to my classes as a bit of a respite. Every time I see her she looks tired and sad. I sometimes manage to get a smile out of her by the end of the class. Working with her always upsets me because I can’t imagine what the poor kid is going through. Yet week after week she turns up, she doesn’t have to, but she does.

    Another child in my class who is also 12 has had 3 schools since his parent's separation. He was bullied and then became a bully. He is a bright kid but puts on this hard image to impress because he gets no attention from his parents. He is disruptive in school and was when he first came to my class. That has changed now. My aim for next term is to get him back to being a bright kid and to enjoy school again.

    I also worked with a brother and sister who I couldn’t get rid of at the end of the class. They always wanted to stay on and do more work? I couldn’t understand their enthusiasm until I meet their mum one evening and I could smell alcohol on her breath. They never missed a class and didn't enjoy spending time at home.

    Finally and this always gets me... I had a girl in my class that was bullied to the extent that she didn't talk. She joined my group and after a few months I was happy with her progress. One evening she and her mother popped into my class and gave me a card. Her mother said "I can't thank you enough for what you have done". I got home and read the card. She said that for the first time (in a long time) she had the confidence to stand up in her English class and speak. She had the courage to face her bullies and call them out. She went on and said that 'I had changed her life'. I now hear that she has left school and gone to University and... doing well. Her letter brought me to tears and I phoned her teacher and once again both of us were in tears.
    I won't go into details of what could have happened to her.
    I keep her card at the front of my work folder to remind me how I can help a few kids get through tough times in their lives.
    I believe that 70-75% of the kids I work with have some sort of problem in their lives.
    So when I read the end of your post saying this, I have to ask what sort of imbecile am I talking to?
    Sorry to the rest of the posters but sometimes these idiots need to think before they post.
     
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  4. pompeymeowth

    pompeymeowth Prepare for trouble x
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    Are you Starmer?? I hear he is negative... apparently, not enough bulldog spirit, we need more like shagger Johnson who uses the public purse to pay off his affairs, having to be taken to court to acknowledge your own child is epic bants, lying your arse of is part of the job, u-turns are ok but not by others, it's pretty standard to miss vital meetings so you can sort out a divorce where you cheated on your mrs, left her high and dry, who needs to deal with someone with cancer right? Easier to get yourself a younger model. WHAT A LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!!!

    Personally some, certainly not all of the **** this walking piece of excrement has done should effect his position in public office, some certainly does. However if even the smallest fraction of this ****s indiscretions were done by a politician from another party their career would be done in an instant, they would be absolutely destroyed by the media and lose the support of both party and supporters. It's absolutely frightening how he survives all this without any sense of accountability, responsibility to anyone... and his supporters don't care. It is very cult like, the way it's been and the way it's going bares links strong to totalitarianism.

    We have moved well beyond the looking glass here.
     
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  6. bobmid

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    I couldn't be bothered reading that Ellers. Is it a CV?
     
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  7. bobmid

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    Superbly put. It is a cult where his followers are completely brainwashed.
     
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  8. pompeymeowth

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    It's an analyst's dream, so much going on there.
     
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    It's a lot to do with the anti foreigner brigade who see him as their man, who have become political since the whole Brexit thing. Don't underestimate the move towards totalitarianism, there is a strong movement towards the government being beyond criticism and investigation, reports either not done, suppressed. Any media that isn't a propaganda for them is rubbished and instantly dismissed, opponents accused of hating their country, being traitors and destroyed by pro government media and sources, just ask Corbyn the most lied about man in the history of mankind. We are walking straight into this, need more like you Bob otherwise by the time some wake up it will be too late.
     
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    I see non EU immigration is at an all time high. I wonder how that sits with certain folk.
    Unfortunately, I believe it is too late Wills. We are going down the American route of 'zero accountability'. The government are putting all this in place.
     
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    Only if you're looking at the genetic make up of the intelligence of the populace
     
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    Would love to hear from a Brexiteer on their perspective on the U-turn in N Ireland.

    I'm betting it will be the classic "'duck' Northern Ireland", we owe them nothing attitude. Completely ignoring, of course, that Brexiteers were so insistent on keeping N Ireland aligned to the UK that we ended up with it being one of our three negotiating red lines.
     
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  13. BobbyD

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    Plasterboard bob sounds pretty personal ellers :p.

    As for your work, well done. It certainly sounds like you are making a difference and you should be proud of how you have changed the lives of those kids. Maybe you should do it full time if you can afford it as it sounds pretty satisfying
     
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    Cheers Bobby. I get Personal rewards seeing how the kids come out the other end. I couldn’t do it full time Although I was asked a while back. It can be quite hard at times and when I hear the back stories of some kids, it upsets me.
    I don’t need to mention the other bit, too much air time. :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  15. bobmid

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    I didnt read it but if it helps the less fortunate in society then I'm all for it. We should all try do our bit to help people who struggle with life, especially after the last decade of cuts and austerity.
     
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    SCOTTISH Conservative leader Jackson Carlaw has penned a letter to Nicola Sturgeon – telling her the public has lost confidence in her Health Secretary amid a row over patients being discharged to care homes without being tested for Covid-19.

    The letter comes after it emerged that almost 1,000 hospital patients were discharged to care homes before compulsory Covid-19 testing was enforced, significantly more than previously stated.

    The figures are more than three times higher than the previous numbers announcement by Health Secretary Jeane Freeman.

    We have similar issues with our health secretary but nobody dare say anything.
     
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    It stinks of double standards. As I said yesterday, the SNP are getting rightly slammed, for doing exactly what the Tories in Westminster were doing with regards to care homes - but try to hold them to account and you get slammed as a traitor, "don't know the whole picture", "let's just wait til it's all over", "there'll be an enquiry" etc etc.

    Someone should pen a letter to Jackson Carlaw and tell him that the Scottish public have lost confidence in Boris Johnson - although I bet he already knows that!
     
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    I think when Boris said there would be no trade barriers in the Irish Sea i.e. between N Ireland and the rest of the UK, it had the same status as the "dying in a ditch" pledge re an extension. Most people knew it was bluster and had to happen. The Unionists won't like the current proposals even though barriers will be kept to a minimum. Expect there to be some financial inducement coming from Westminster (not the first) to sweeten the pill.
     
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    Most people knew it was bluster? What an absolute cop out mate. It was a blatant lie.
     
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    “There will be no checks on goods going from GB to NI and NI to GB because we are going to come out of the EU whole and entire. That was the objective we secured”
    Boris Johnson, press conference in Kent

    “There will be no tariffs and no checks”
    Boris Johnson interview, Andrew Marr Show

    “The prime minister has been very clear, you know. We’re not going to have anything. We’re going to make sure that there’s unfettered access into the UK market”
    Julian Smith, Conservative Northern Ireland manifesto launch

    What a joker. Just full of bluster bless his little cotton socks. Chortle chortle
     
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