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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52105337

Whilst I am not surprised by this, I am actually very disappointed that its clubs lowest paid workers who are losing out here. If the players had any moral fibre they would be funding this they can all afford it as can the owner and Levy himself. Poor form in my book and not showing our club or our players in a good light at this time.
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52105337

Whilst I am not surprised by this, I am actually very disappointed that its clubs lowest paid workers who are losing out here. If the players had any moral fibre they would be funding this they can all afford it as can the owner and Levy himself. Poor form in my book and not showing our club or our players in a good light at this time.

Well, "g*bshite privilege" personified. Sadly, no suprises really (as you stated) .
 
The PFA need to take a long, hard look at themselves. I can see many supporters turning their backs on their clubs because of this.
And that's the problem: why should clubs eat **** because the PFA dragged their feet?

Meanwhile, since there's nowhere else to put it, UEFA have been dishing out a bunch of punative fines to clubs this week like they're tossing confetti, which isn't a good look...
 
And that's the problem: why should clubs eat **** because the PFA dragged their feet?

Meanwhile, since there's nowhere else to put it, UEFA have been dishing out a bunch of punative fines to clubs this week like they're tossing confetti, which isn't a good look...
Professional football has forgotten it's roots and now acts like it's on a different planet. For it's own good it needs to be brought down a peg or 3.
 
One club out of 92 won't make the PFA budge

There is nothing that the PFA can do to stop players donating money to help ensure that regular staff are not forced to get a 20% pay cut.

It is a stain on the club that 500 plus staff are losing 20% of their wages.

Most of those staff are on the London Living Wage. I am one of the "lucky ones" that has my wages protected but my uni daughter and her partner work for Weatherspoons and are in the same position of losing money.


I have read about Toby Alderweireld buying computer tablets and giving them away to people so they cankeep in touch with families...maybe all the players are doing these things but that does not mean that it is ok for them not to support those taking a pay cut.

If every player donated 20% of their pay they would comfortably ensure normally waged staff would be protected.

Our players wage bill is estimated at between approx £76m to £86m per year...20% would be between £15m to £17m which would guarantee that no one lost money.

For 500 staff it would equate to £2500 each per month.

Multi millionaires standing by and watching ordinary working people taking a massive pay cuts while they do nothing to protect them is shameful whether you be a twat called Tim, a prick called Gordon or a professional footballer.
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52105337

Whilst I am not surprised by this, I am actually very disappointed that its clubs lowest paid workers who are losing out here. If the players had any moral fibre they would be funding this they can all afford it as can the owner and Levy himself. Poor form in my book and not showing our club or our players in a good light at this time.

For a long time, i’ve felt a disconnect with modern football and if I’m completely honest, I’m not missing football at all with this enforced break (although that’s probably down to Spurs being rubbish) but seeing this feels like another nail in the coffin for my football love affair.

Asking someone on £10 an hour to take a 20% pay cut while someone on £200,000 a week continues to earn their full amount is morally disgusting.
 
There is nothing that the PFA can do to stop players donating money to help ensure that regular staff are not forced to get a 20% pay cut. ...

It is a stain on the club that 500 plus staff are losing 20% of their wages.

Multi millionaires standing by and watching ordinary working people taking a massive pay cuts while they do nothing to protect them is shameful whether you be a twat called Tim, a prick called Gordon or a professional footballer.

Welcome to the world of "g*bshite privilege" .
Talk is cheap, until you literally have to pay for what you say.

I have mixed feelings on 'preaching your piety' , as I know there are some
"celebs" who silently give away a fair bit of their wealth to causes, with no
publicity whatsoever.

However the Silly Allens of this world, the Hollywood g*bshites who think
singing John Lennon songs is some great contribution, are fair game for
asking to see their bank statements for ingoings/outgoings.
 
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For a long time, i’ve felt a disconnect with modern football and if I’m completely honest, I’m not missing football at all with this enforced break (although that’s probably down to Spurs being rubbish) but seeing this feels like another nail in the coffin for my football love affair.

AFAIK, there has always been some financial/social disconnect between
footballers and the supporters.

My dad told me that in the 60s /early 70s you would get some
"Do you know who I am ??" antics from some of them.

Similarly they were on much better wages, but not orders of magnitude
more than the supporter (most then used to buy pubs etc as their
post football retirement funding schemes) .

Right now, this disconnect IMHO is at levels that saw the political/feudal
wealthy eventually hanging from lamp posts a century ago.
 
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Within a week the Lunatic Fringe will look really stupid when "No announcement" turns into "What Spurs, Norwich and Newcastle are doing"

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...but not as stupid as the clubs that will change their policy
 
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I do this. Unfortunately the back of my head resembles a hedge where it is hard to reach. I usually need a barber to make it look reasonable.
 
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Just pop into your local Argos and... oh, wait...
 
Within a week the Lunatic Fringe will look really stupid when "No announcement" turns into "What Spurs, Norwich and Newcastle are doing"

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...but not as stupid as the clubs that will change their policy
Oh joy, Simon Jordan's having a pop at us

Just a reminder, Simon Jordan had Palace voluntarily go into Administration when they didn't have to which coincidentally meant he didn't have to pay non-playing staff...

Jordan is a mouthy hypocrite...who has a long running grudge with us over our refusal to report chelsea to the fa for them tapping up Frank Arnesen (Jordan claimed we had a duty to not mske a deal with Chelsea) and cos of us signing John Bostock from them...Jordan always was an arse when he was Palace Chairman and probably always will be.
But tbh that, nor the behaviour of other clubs explains why our club is behaving so reprehensibly.
For first time ever I can honestly ssy I am ashamed of the club.
I have never been "Levy out" but acting like Gordon Ramsey, The Weatherspoons prick and Mike ****ing Ashley is unforgivable.

For our club to steal 20% of the wages of the lowest paid is sick imho.

So until that is changed **** Levy and every multimillionaire that stands by in any organisation and allows that **** to happen.

@"Thanks for that Brian" summed it up best...

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
I'd rather have a hairdresser,being female <diva> than a barber thanks! <laugh>

I have a lady hairdresser! I let my grey hair grow down to my shoulders before the last cut. I thought it looked good.At my age I'm gifted with very good hair....even got my own teeth! My brain needs a full service though!!!!
 
Jordan is a mouthy hypocrite...who has a long running grudge with us over our refusal to report chelsea to the fa for them tapping up Frank Arnesen (Jordan claimed we had a duty to not mske a deal with Chelsea) and cos of us signing John Bostock from them...Jordan always was an arse when he was Palace Chairman and probably always will be.
But tbh that, nor the behaviour of other clubs explains why our club is behaving so reprehensibly.
For first time ever I can honestly ssy I am ashamed of the club.
I have never been "Levy out" but acting like Gordon Ramsey, The Weatherspoons prick and Mike ****ing Ashley is unforgivable.

For our club to steal 20% of the wages of the lowest paid is sick imho.

So until that is changed **** Levy and every multimillionaire that stands by in any organisation and allows that **** to happen.

@"Thanks for that Brian" summed it up best...

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
The thing with that infographic is that it throws up two questions

1.) So if the various clubs who have yet to make an announcement also furlough wages, will they be eating **** like we are (yet Norwich and Newcastle aren't) or will the excuses begin?

2.) There's some purposefully vague wording on there, be it Wolves saying staff will be "compensated" with no suggestion of when or how much while Bournemouth gave some PR speak, meanwhile the Manc clubs explicitly talk about "casual staff" without any clarification of what that means, for example nobody can call coaches "casual staff" which means there's no clarification whether or not they'll be fully-paid...and that's where my first question becomes a lot more important, because if Man Utd announce their coaching staff are taking a pay cut we should start taking bets on the excuses, not just from their fans and mates in the press but the Twitter/Reddit crowd of our support