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[remembercolinlee]

The thing with that infographic is that it throws up two questions

1.) So if the various clubs who have yet to make an announcement also furlough wages, will they be eating **** like we are (yet Norwich and Newcastle aren't) or will the excuses begin?

2.) There's some purposefully vague wording on there, be it Wolves saying staff will be "compensated" with no suggestion of when or how much while Bournemouth gave some PR speak, meanwhile the Manc clubs explicitly talk about "casual staff" without any clarification of what that means, for example nobody can call coaches "casual staff" which means there's no clarification whether or not they'll be fully-paid...and that's where my first question becomes a lot more important, because if Man Utd announce their coaching staff are taking a pay cut we should start taking bets on the excuses, not just from their fans and mates in the press but the Twitter/Reddit crowd of our support

I have no doubt that other equally rich owners are behaving despicably. But that does not lessen the appalling, callous and disgraceful treatment of the lowest psid employees at Tottenham.
They club could easily afford to mske up the additional 20% of wages...that is the morally correct thing to do.
If the 550 employees earned £30000 each that is £577 per week.
20% of that equals just under £116 per week per employee, making s weekly total of just under £64,000.
That is a monthly total of £275,000.
To suggest that the club needs to deny staff £116 in order to save £275,000 per month is an utter lie by the club.
Tbh, Levy could give over his £3m bonus (not his wage just his bonus) and it would protect the 20% wage difference for all 550 staff for just under a year.
I am genuinely ashamed of the club's decision and unless they change it I am firmly in the **** Off Levy camp.
To needlessly put people through the stress of a 20% pay cut during just one of the most stressful moments in modern history is cruel...and there is no justifying it.

 

[The RDBD]

The thing with that infographic is that it throws up two questions ...

Those clubs may have been thinking what Spurs have, and waiting
for a "bigger fish" to blink first and feel the brunt of the PR sh*t storm.

However, whatever the financials are, to suggest that a club such as Spurs
could not at the THFC +/- player level have made a gesture to cover that 20%
gap, is quite insulting.

As always, if someone has the numbers that shows that the above is
mere wishful thinking on my behalf, please feel free to educate me.

 

[paultheplug]

I think that the lead in personal financial sacrifice should be led by the likes of Rees Mogg and others of his ilk bringing their money back from offshore tax havens and paying the amounts of tax that they should to HMRC. The majority of PFA members probably earn less than MPs and they are ones that the PFA need to protect. Football clubs are businesses in the entertainment sector and as such are entitled to the same assistance as any other company.
However I think the highly paid players, many of whom do outstanding work for charities and their local communities, should make a point giving up part of their salaries in a way that is visible, but not set any precedent that can be applied to the players in the lower divisions.

 

[Spurlock]

Another win for Levy

Savvy footballing man that he is

 

[Spurlock]

Let’s not forget the well earned 3 mill bonus for delivering the stadium late and above budget

luvvly jubbly

 

[Spurlock]

I think that the lead in personal financial sacrifice should be led by the likes of Rees Mogg and others of his ilk bringing their money back from offshore tax havens and paying the amounts of tax that they should to HMRC. The majority of PFA members probably earn less than MPs and they are ones that the PFA need to protect. Football clubs are businesses in the entertainment sector and as such are entitled to the same assistance as any other company.
However I think the highly paid players, many of whom do outstanding work for charities and their local communities, should make a point giving up part of their salaries in a way that is visible, but not set any precedent that can be applied to the players in the lower divisions.

Rees has got nothing to do with Spurs

Levy is an embarrassment to the club

can’t hide behind the stadium I’m afraid

normal people give to charity too, through their bang average normal wages...footballers are nothing special. They earn filthy amounts...they should contribute a filthier amount to the problem we are facing.

 

[bigsmithy9]

They will probably rename our stadium "The Daniel Levy Stadium". Wouldn't that be nice?

 

[paultheplug]

Rees has got nothing to do with Spurs

Levy is an embarrassment to the club

can’t hide behind the stadium I’m afraid

normal people give to charity too, through their bang average normal wages...footballers are nothing special. They earn filthy amounts...they should contribute a filthier amount to the problem we are facing.

Politicians are asking footballers to give up some of their wages. They should set examples for others to follow. As I said the more highly paid players should forego part of the salaries.

 

[bigsmithy9]

Politicians are asking footballers to give up some of their wages. They should set examples for others to follow. As I said the more highly paid players should forego part of the salaries.

If the Corona- virus ever gets cleared up,do you think the footballers (and others) will be getting big tax rebates?

 

[humanbeingincroydon]

Politicians are asking footballers to give up some of their wages. They should set examples for others to follow. As I said the more highly paid players should forego part of the salaries.

It's almost as if we're being used to deflect attention from something else...

 

[remembercolinlee]

It's almost as if we're being used to deflect attention from something else...

True...but it still a ****ing outragous, immoral, disgusting, grubby, disrespectful, greedy, sickening and an abuse of power from the club to it's lowest paid and therefore most vulnerable employees.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
(TM @"Thanks for that Brian" )

 

[Spurlock]

It's almost as if we're being used to deflect attention from something else...

Has DL chopped your wage aswell?

 

[remembercolinlee]

Anyone got an email address for the club?

 

[Patsbighands]

The club being 'Named and Shamed' on the news tonight and to right too.

 

[humanbeingincroydon]

You know the worst thing about being right? Sometimes it takes a little while for the world to catch up. For example...

Case in point, that infographic said this for Bournemouth: "No workers will be 'financially disadvantaged' by pandemic"

At 3:41pm I said "There's some purposefully vague wording on there...while Bournemouth gave some PR speak"

At 3:45pm it was announced that Eddie Howe would be taking a pay cut

In other words, Bournemouth lied about nobody taking pay cuts...which I predicted at 11am!

 

[remembercolinlee]

You know the worst thing about being right? Sometimes it takes a little while for the world to catch up. For example...

Case in point, that infographic said this for Bournemouth: "No workers will be 'financially disadvantaged' by pandemic"

At 3:41pm I said "There's some purposefully vague wording on there...while Bournemouth gave some PR speak"

At 3:45pm it was announced that Eddie Howe would be taking a pay cut

In other words, Bournemouth lied about nobody taking pay cuts...which I predicted at 11am!

Massive difference between a multi millionaire manager getting a pay cut to regular staff.
Bournemouth are owned by people richer than Joe Lewis...they hsve behaved badly in cutting pay to people who let young players lodge with them...but that does not and can not be allowed to let our club off the hook for it's own reprehensible behaviour.

 

[KingHotspur]

Just pop into your local Argos and... oh, wait...

If your local Argos is inside a Sainsburys then it should still be open

You know the worst thing about being right? Sometimes it takes a little while for the world to catch up. For example...

Case in point, that infographic said this for Bournemouth: "No workers will be 'financially disadvantaged' by pandemic"

At 3:41pm I said "There's some purposefully vague wording on there...while Bournemouth gave some PR speak"

At 3:45pm it was announced that Eddie Howe would be taking a pay cut

In other words, Bournemouth lied about nobody taking pay cuts...which I predicted at 11am!

Apparently the staff are taking voluntary pay cuts aren’t they.

 

[BobbyD]

I have no doubt that other equally rich owners are behaving despicably. But that does not lessen the appalling, callous and disgraceful treatment of the lowest psid employees at Tottenham.
They club could easily afford to mske up the additional 20% of wages...that is the morally correct thing to do.
If the 550 employees earned £30000 each that is £577 per week.
20% of that equals just under £116 per week per employee, making s weekly total of just under £64,000.
That is a monthly total of £275,000.
To suggest that the club needs to deny staff £116 in order to save £275,000 per month is an utter lie by the club.
Tbh, Levy could give over his £3m bonus (not his wage just his bonus) and it would protect the 20% wage difference for all 550 staff for just under a year.
I am genuinely ashamed of the club's decision and unless they change it I am firmly in the **** Off Levy camp.
To needlessly put people through the stress of a 20% pay cut during just one of the most stressful moments in modern history is cruel...and there is no justifying it.

 

[humanbeingincroydon]

Massive difference between a multi millionaire manager getting a pay cut to regular staff.
Bournemouth are owned by people richer than Joe Lewis...they hsve behaved badly in cutting pay to people who let young players lodge with them...but that does not and can not be allowed to let our club off the hook foy it's own reprehensible behaviour.

The point is that Bournemouth are off the hook for outright lying - which I called four hours before they did it

The thing is, all the club needs to do to save face is pay the 20% (as, for those unaware - such as anyone bellowing "paY yEr sTuHfF" on Twitter for an obvious example - the 80% is covered by the government furlough scheme) and go to the Winchester, have a nice cold pint, and wait for this all to blow over. The thing is, we made a bit of a bollocks of that...

If you look over the statement once again, one section stands out above all others

We hope the current discussions between the Premier League, PFA and LMA will result in players and coaches doing their bit for the football ecosystem.

The fact that is included in the statement is important, Norwich did not mention the PFA et al in their statement while Newcastle have not even released a statement, with their staff reportedly learning about their wages being furloughed by email on Monday morning

And this is, I believe, how we've made a bollocks out of it: the way the statement is worded makes it look like we were trying to make the PFA blink so that we could be the heroes and say that, as the PFA budged and reduced player wages, the club could pay the extra 20%...yet instead what happened was what's happened in the last ten years worth of transfer windows where we try and make somebody blink and instead they dig their heels in, and to the surprise of...actually, quite a lot of people judging by the response, the plan backfired so we're eating **** while the PFA et al continue to drag out negotiations about wage cuts and somehow don't get so much as a skidmark thrown at them for it

And this is the thing people don't realise: the PFA are advising players not to take wage cuts, which is bloody ridiculous in the case of clubs with suicidal wage-to-revenue ratios such as Villa, so all clubs are eating **** right now because of this - it's just we had the bright idea to try and make the PFA budge by making a grand show of force, and they responded with "We remember Saido Berahino" and didn't move an inch

 

[The RDBD]

The club being 'Named and Shamed' on the news tonight and to right too.

BBC national and London news.

Interesting that Arry thinks players should basically give an eff-you
to whatever football authorities may try to stop players from doing
a wage reduction.