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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Sooperhoop, Feb 8, 2020.

  1. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    I’m afraid that the 20k is a best case scenario. 250k still in play.

    Doubtless more lockdowns at 8.30 tonight.
     
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    Local shops for local people I assume. Have you also danced around a maypole and burned a wicker effigy with a visiting copper inside?
     
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    Hmmm...so if this is brought under control with - say - less than 20k deaths do we all sh!t our pants later in the year and all go into self isolation to avoid the large number of winter flu deaths that happen every year??
     
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    We’ll have the second wave of Corona to look forward to.
     
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    Yes i think we may. WHO think so to.
     
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    Good read from an immunologist at Johns Hopkins University.

    Not really feeling sick and do not want to be..but if you are feeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal flu? Here it is in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to share this to others who don’t understand...

    It has to do with RNA sequencing.... I.e. genetics.

    Seasonal flu is an “all human virus”. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system. This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year... you get immunity two ways...through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot.

    Novel viruses, come from animals.... the WHO tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1) (birds in the case of the Spanish flu). But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans... then it’s a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity.. the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, and the human immune system doesn’t recognize it so, we can’t fight it off.

    Now.... sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human, for years it’s only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to human... once that happens..we have a new contagion phase. And depending on the fashion of this new mutation, thats what decides how contagious, or how deadly it’s gonna be..

    H1N1 was deadly....but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu. It’s RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too.

    Fast forward.

    Now, here comes this Coronavirus... it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long...but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people. At first, only animals could give it to a person... But here is the scary part.... in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability, “slippery”

    This Coronavirus, not being in any form a “human” virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity). Took off like a rocket. And this was because, Humans have no known immunity...doctors have no known medicines for it.

    And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus, changed itself in such a way the way that it causes great damage to human lungs..

    That’s why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any other type of influenza.... this one is slippery AF. And it’s a lung eater...And, it’s already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains to deal with, strain s, and strain L....which makes it twice as hard to develop a vaccine.

    We really have no tools in our shed, with this. History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in the past pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu.

    Factoid: Henry VIII stayed in his room and allowed no one near him, till the Black Plague passed...(honestly...I understand him so much better now). Just like us, he had no tools in his shed, except social isolation...

    And let me end by saying....right now it’s hitting older folks harder... but this genome is so slippery...if it mutates again (and it will). Who is to say, what it will do next.

    Be smart folks... acting like you’re unafraid is so not needed right now.

    #flattenthecurve. Stay home folks... and share this to those that just are not catching on.
     
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    This is from a friend of my missus, a doctor who has recovered from Covid - it's a good read

     
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    Yeah it’s quite weird isn’t it....
     
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    Coronavirus: Teens held for 'coughing in face' of elderly couple
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    Image caption The pair were approached by three people in Paynes Park, Hitchin
    Three teenagers were arrested after an elderly couple were allegedly coughed at in the street.

    The couple were approached by three people in Hitchin, one of whom is said to have coughed in their faces.

    A passer-by intervened and there was "an altercation" which left a woman in her 70s with a black eye, police said.

    Three males aged 16, 18 and 19 were questioned on suspicion of actual bodily harm, affray and criminal damage after the incident on Friday afternoon.

    Hertfordshire Police said the elderly woman was taken to hospital for a check-up and later discharged.

    Her vehicle was also damaged in the incident in Paynes Park.

    The man who intervened also suffered bruising, police said.

    The suspects were questioned and released under investigation.

    The force called for anyone with information to contact them and asked people not to post details of those they believe are involved or share footage on social media as it could hamper the investigation.
     
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    Inevitable sadly.
     
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    That’s the site I have been using.
     
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    Thought you were on Pornhub seeing as you're working from home <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  17. sb_73

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    I’ve been looking at this for some time.

    The death rate is misleading, because it’s based on the number of confirmed through testing cases. We know the actual number of cases is much much higher, probably near 200,000 in the UK alone.

    This means the death rate is actually much lower. Not that this is any any solace for many families.
     
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    Yeah I get that. The stat here is just number of deaths/number of concluded cases. It makes sense as a confirmed ‘survivor’ will take some time to definitively survive while a dead person may perish fairly quickly. It’s still grim.
     
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    Well Boris couldn’t really make it any more explicit. That’s as tough a lockdown as anywhere in Europe I think.
     
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