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Boris...

  • should completely lock us down immediately and fook up all our Christmas'

    Votes: 3 12.5%

  • let the bodies stack high

    Votes: 13 54.2%

  • lock us down from the 29th to fook up Treble's plans

    Votes: 8 33.3%
  • Total voters
    24
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Commachio said:
We've got 8 or 9 so far, plus 2 managers.

Had a briefing today, feeling any off the symptoms, or anyone in your house...Isolate...Live alone 7 days, with others 14 days.

If you have no symptoms, please come to work, and any extra hours you can do..

We just can't keep up.
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We are now all working from home (from Monday evening) ... London is deserted (relatively)
 
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Welshie said:
You have to draw a fine line between absolute panic stations and trying to keep some normality. I think some have pressed the big red button to batten down the hatches, some are opting for relative normality. I recognise many people want schools and nurseries to be closed, but, that's happened elsewhere and just resulted in many 16-18 year olds hanging around outside all day as opposed to staying at home as they've been told. Countries who have closed schools have seen infections increase at a completely normal rate as those with kids in schools.

Long term economic affects are also on everyone's mind, some countries have to try and keep the ball rolling and money flowing. Germany is reacting quite similarly to the UK, imagine if they tried to quarantine, not a single net contributor with the euro would be conducting business.

I know people have a gut reaction of "**** it's serious, DO SOMETHING." But I think what we are doing is a generally solid response to try and keep people's lives moving for as long as possible.

The long term economic affects of France, Spain and Italy closing will be massive for the Eurozone in my opinion, as it would be in the UK if everything shut.
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Only just noticed this notification.

I'm not arguing whether or not we're doing the right thing. You said governments are doing the same things, but they're not and that's just factual.

You've used Germany as an example. They shut schools last week, have shut non-essential shops, churches, mosques etc. and now are looking at closing their borders (something we were always told was impossible). They're also testing far more people.
 
Diego said:
So i said people would build up resistance and you chirp in with no immunity even with a vaccine but you are not confusing the two?

I really don't know why i bother with you. Is the whisky good?
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Only I never said anything about no immunity even with a vaccine, so wtf are you talking about?

Which makes your comment about whisky ironic, you truly ridiculous, lonely old soak.
 
****ing **** this is.

Our boss has just told us we can survive with no work for a few months but then he'll shut the company or go into hibernation rather than take any loan.

What do I get as a self employed man and I am only renting atm and as far as I can see there is no guarantee of help.
 
Sharpe* said:
****ing **** this is.

Our boss has just told us we can survive with no work for a few months but then he'll shut the company or go into hibernation rather than take any loan.

What do I get as a self employed man and I am only renting atm and as far as I can see there is no guarantee of help.
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You get to claim universal credit
 
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Treble said:
Tbh even then, the government aren't doing much to bail anyone out. This bit sticks with me...

The extraordinary figure here was £330bn in state-backed loans for all businesses through the banking system with the help of the Bank of England.

Which means ultimately, when businesses are unable to pay the loans back, the government will have to, ie. taxpayers will make the bankers very rich. And the reason this fcks me off is I think, well if we're going to end up writing off billions, why should it be to the banks, why not just give it to those who need it now, including businesses.
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We can't just 'give' that amount of money away mate.

And I say we, because it's Britain as a whole who will end up paying all this back, so keeping it down to as little as possible has to be the ultimate aim. Otherwise we'll be taxed up to our eyeballs for the foreseeable future.

There are some holes in the approach, hopefully to be addressed as the days go by, but on the face of it was a measured approach.
 
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Sharpe* said:
****ing **** this is.

Our boss has just told us we can survive with no work for a few months but then he'll shut the company or go into hibernation rather than take any loan.

What do I get as a self employed man and I am only renting atm and as far as I can see there is no guarantee of help.
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Hopefully they'll come up with a system whereby rent payers are also protected but if you're ok for a few months you should be fine?

How long we expecting this to go on for if it's more than a few months? Ignore the politicians for a minute and focus on the science, the forecast isn't that we'll all be indoors for months on end. The world at large and the economy has to keep moving when it can.
 
Stan said:
@BobbyD stay safe, the morons need someone to blame

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The “are country are rules” brigade were hassling Chinese students when this was barely a thing. When the **** really hits the fan I have no faith in anyone who looks vaguely Asian being safe.
 
Chief said:
We can't just 'give' that amount of money away mate.

And I say we, because it's Britain as a whole who will end up paying all this back, so keeping it down to as little as possible has to be the ultimate aim. Otherwise we'll be taxed up to our eyeballs for the foreseeable future.

There are some holes in the approach, hopefully to be addressed as the days go by, but on the face of it was a measured approach.
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The thing is, we can, and we should, as otherwise it'll **** the economy up waaaaaaay more. Having hundreds of thousands of people losing their jobs and homes at the same time is more of a threat to the country than a massive recession brought on by doing ****all to help.
 
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Sharpe* said:
****ing **** this is.

Our boss has just told us we can survive with no work for a few months but then he'll shut the company or go into hibernation rather than take any loan.

What do I get as a self employed man and I am only renting atm and as far as I can see there is no guarantee of help.
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They’re going to have to do something to support renters, and I’d expect that to come today / tomorrow, as the omission has been highlighted everywhere.

Unfortunately, the reality of offering loans to business that would mainly be going to support an inactive workforce, is there in your comment. Expecting business to rack up massive debt in order to keep inactive staff in wages isn’t going to happen. Companies will be forced to lay staff off, which will cause massive hardship as the UC system is dogshit. They’re going to have to do more to help ensure people aren’t laid off.
 
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Chief said:
We can't just 'give' that amount of money away mate.

And I say we, because it's Britain as a whole who will end up paying all this back, so keeping it down to as little as possible has to be the ultimate aim. Otherwise we'll be taxed up to our eyeballs for the foreseeable future.

There are some holes in the approach, hopefully to be addressed as the days go by, but on the face of it was a measured approach.
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We wont be paying this back in taxes,
The chancellor hasnt offered taxpayers money, he's asked the bank of england to print money that will be paid back via the banks.
 
Looney Leftie said:
We wont be paying this back in taxes,
The chancellor hasnt offered taxpayers money, he's asked the bank of england to print money that will be paid back via the banks.
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A tiny silver lining to all of this could be (probably won’t be still) the introduction of UBI. The negative of this will be we’ll have to have the same argument on here about the pros and cons of UBI and I don’t think I have the energy for that.
 
Looney Leftie said:
We wont be paying this back in taxes,
The chancellor hasnt offered taxpayers money, he's asked the bank of england to print money that will be paid back via the banks.
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Ok then, I'll word it differently.

The bank of England can't be expected to give that level of money away.
 
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