Coronavirus

We are now all working from home (from Monday evening) ... London is deserted (relatively)

 

Only just noticed this notification.

I'm not arguing whether or not we're doing the right thing. You said governments are doing the same things, but they're not and that's just factual.

You've used Germany as an example. They shut schools last week, have shut non-essential shops, churches, mosques etc. and now are looking at closing their borders (something we were always told was impossible). They're also testing far more people.

 

Only I never said anything about no immunity even with a vaccine, so wtf are you talking about?

Which makes your comment about whisky ironic, you truly ridiculous, lonely old soak.

 

****ing **** this is.

Our boss has just told us we can survive with no work for a few months but then he'll shut the company or go into hibernation rather than take any loan.

What do I get as a self employed man and I am only renting atm and as far as I can see there is no guarantee of help.

 

You get to claim universal credit

 

@BobbyD stay safe, the morons need someone to blame

 

We can't just 'give' that amount of money away mate.

And I say we, because it's Britain as a whole who will end up paying all this back, so keeping it down to as little as possible has to be the ultimate aim. Otherwise we'll be taxed up to our eyeballs for the foreseeable future.

There are some holes in the approach, hopefully to be addressed as the days go by, but on the face of it was a measured approach.

 

Hopefully they'll come up with a system whereby rent payers are also protected but if you're ok for a few months you should be fine?

How long we expecting this to go on for if it's more than a few months? Ignore the politicians for a minute and focus on the science, the forecast isn't that we'll all be indoors for months on end. The world at large and the economy has to keep moving when it can.

 

The “are country are rules” brigade were hassling Chinese students when this was barely a thing. When the **** really hits the fan I have no faith in anyone who looks vaguely Asian being safe.

 

Only for 6 months, then they’re interest bearing.

 

@KingEric07 . is back!!

 

Nice and calm in the shops this morning. Bit of a queue buying it but stock levels were good on almost everything.

 

The thing is, we can, and we should, as otherwise it'll **** the economy up waaaaaaay more. Having hundreds of thousands of people losing their jobs and homes at the same time is more of a threat to the country than a massive recession brought on by doing ****all to help.

 

They’re going to have to do something to support renters, and I’d expect that to come today / tomorrow, as the omission has been highlighted everywhere.

Unfortunately, the reality of offering loans to business that would mainly be going to support an inactive workforce, is there in your comment. Expecting business to rack up massive debt in order to keep inactive staff in wages isn’t going to happen. Companies will be forced to lay staff off, which will cause massive hardship as the UC system is dogshit. They’re going to have to do more to help ensure people aren’t laid off.

 

We wont be paying this back in taxes,
The chancellor hasnt offered taxpayers money, he's asked the bank of england to print money that will be paid back via the banks.

 

A tiny silver lining to all of this could be (probably won’t be still) the introduction of UBI. The negative of this will be we’ll have to have the same argument on here about the pros and cons of UBI and I don’t think I have the energy for that.

 

Ok then, I'll word it differently.

The bank of England can't be expected to give that level of money away.

 

People are so indoctrinated by the 'household income' model for government spending, it's scary...

 

They gave plenty away to bail out the banks in 2008, so why not?

 

Owch!!!