He was never burnt out after 30 mins despite the club lifeIf it was that simple George Best would still be alive.

He was never burnt out after 30 mins despite the club lifeIf it was that simple George Best would still be alive.

And what if it's not physical or psychological, but the player just being a lazy **** who can't be bothered?
My point was that people cannot always control things that are detrimental to their health and well being. Aron Lennon has been through a really bad time it's not one he chose and it has been a huge fight for him.He was never burnt out after 30 mins despite the club life![]()
You got no idea he's doing any of those things though. Maybe he's trying his best but he's inexperienced and doesn't quite know what the manager wants. Maybe there are other players that feel the same? The performance against Norwich and the game against Leipzig suggests that far more tbh.
Then he will possibly have severe mental problems that need to be investigated. You cannot get to the level of elite sport if you are a lazy ****.And what if it's not physical or psychological, but the player just being a lazy **** who can't be bothered?
If it was that simple George Best would still be alive.
Because I've watched him. He doesn't look interested.Why are you so convinced this is the reason though?
The man's life was shortened by a pattern of behavior he could not control. Human beings have not changed in thousands of years. Two different eras of football does not cut it. We don't know what the problem with NDombele is but if he is that unfit and it's not medical it points to psychological to call it lazy is far too simplistic and if it is laziness there has to be a reason for it because he could never have become that good a footballer in the first place if he had always been lazy.George Best is widely regarded as one of the best ever to grace the game. Not really sure of the comparison here to be honest. Two completely different eras of football too.
Do you really believe we would have signed him and payed all that money if he had been playing like that? He must have been playing well to have attracted Spurs in the first place so it's happened since he came to Spurs so something has gone wrong. He's lazy is not an answer.Because I've watched him. He doesn't look interested.
This sort of thing isn't down to fitness or training:
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He came on with 15 minutes left and still can't be arsed to track back or put in a tackle.
Then he will possibly have severe mental problems that need to be investigated. You cannot get to the level of elite sport if you are a lazy ****.
There are loads of talented footballers who never make it at the top level because of their attitude.The man's life was shortened by a pattern of behavior he could not control. Human beings have not changed in thousands of years. Two different eras of football does not cut it. We don't know what the problem with NDombele is but if he is that unfit and it's not medical it points to psychological to call it lazy is far too simplistic and if it is laziness there has to be a reason for it because he could never have become that good a footballer in the first place if he had always been lazy.
Not the same at all Taarabt had an ego problem and if he has turned it around it shows the lack of understanding from his previous managers. They all knew he was a talent but they failed to sort his issues. Poor management. I don''t expect the football managers to do it but they could have employed the services of someone who might have shortened the process of Taarabt coming to terms with his ego.There are loads of talented footballers who never make it at the top level because of their attitude.
Adel Taarabt was one and it seems that he's suddenly realised this at Benfica this season.
He's turned into a hardworking central midfielder, by all accounts. Total reversal.
The difference is that N Dombelle did make it to the top level, he is our record signing.There are loads of talented footballers who never make it at the top level because of their attitude.
Adel Taarabt was one and it seems that he's suddenly realised this at Benfica this season.
He's turned into a hardworking central midfielder, by all accounts. Total reversal.
Happens to a lot of them, Pogba is a prime example. Made a name for themselves, got to the top and have earnt enough to last a lifetime not including what further use of their name will bring, no self respect or will to win or love of the game. Just look at me and my money.There are loads of talented footballers who never make it at the top level because of their attitude.
Adel Taarabt was one and it seems that he's suddenly realised this at Benfica this season.
He's turned into a hardworking central midfielder, by all accounts. Total reversal.
He's made it to the top level, but he hasn't made it at the top level. The same applies to Taarabt.The difference is that N Dombelle did make it to the top level, he is our record signing.
Yes that's my point you can't get to that level just by being a lazy ****. I grant you that you can become a lazy **** in which case as you have just invested 55million in him you need a better response to the problem than just to call him a lazy ****.He's made it to the top level, but he hasn't made it at the top level. The same applies to Taarabt.
The man's life was shortened by a pattern of behavior he could not control. Human beings have not changed in thousands of years. Two different eras of football does not cut it. We don't know what the problem with NDombele is but if he is that unfit and it's not medical it points to psychological to call it lazy is far too simplistic and if it is laziness there has to be a reason for it because he could never have become that good a footballer in the first place if he had always been lazy.
Wow and we made him our most expensive signing. Spurs need THEIR head examined. A bunch of amateurs posing as professionals.I remember reading this when we got him, taken from The Guardian...I’ve always had an eye out for the tell tale signs since tbh
The raw talent has always been there but the focus has not and it is remarkable to think that as recently as the 2015-16 season Ndombele was fighting for recognition in the Amiens reserve team in the Championnat National 3, which is French football’s fifth tier.
It had all gone wrong for him at Guingamp, where he was released as a 17-year-old in 2014 – the club did not offer him a professional contract amid concerns over his commitment. Was he prepared to make the necessary sacrifices?
Talk to anybody in France about Ndombele and one word recurs: nonchalance. It is not meant as a compliment and takes in the impression that he has not always been the most hard-working player. Perhaps it is because his talent is so big that everything comes easily to him.
“He was nonchalant,” Sullivan Martinet, his youth team captain at Guingamp, told Ouest France. “He was so strong that we were expecting more from him, more consistency. He didn’t try maybe as much. He didn’t give the impression of always being 100%. With hindsight, what harmed him was his behaviour off the pitch. We were less talented but we wanted it more than him.”
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Genesio would betray a similar frustration with Ndombele last season, when he wondered in public how he could be so good against Manchester City in the Champions League but so disappointing in some lower-profile games. It is rare to hear Genesio putting such criticisms on the record and it created headlines. That said, he could have applied them to virtually any of his Lyon players and Ndombele’s youth and lack of top-level experience surely had to be considered.
Ndombele had another problem at Guingamp – a propensity to be slightly overweight – and it was cited among the reasons for the refusal to give him a senior deal. “People told me he could put on weight,” said Philippe Le Maire, who was on the club’s youth staff. “To put it in simple terms – he built his bottom half before the top.”
Whoa, quite brutal.I remember reading this when we got him, taken from The Guardian...I’ve always had an eye out for the tell tale signs since tbh
The raw talent has always been there but the focus has not and it is remarkable to think that as recently as the 2015-16 season Ndombele was fighting for recognition in the Amiens reserve team in the Championnat National 3, which is French football’s fifth tier.
It had all gone wrong for him at Guingamp, where he was released as a 17-year-old in 2014 – the club did not offer him a professional contract amid concerns over his commitment. Was he prepared to make the necessary sacrifices?
Talk to anybody in France about Ndombele and one word recurs: nonchalance. It is not meant as a compliment and takes in the impression that he has not always been the most hard-working player. Perhaps it is because his talent is so big that everything comes easily to him.
“He was nonchalant,” Sullivan Martinet, his youth team captain at Guingamp, told Ouest France. “He was so strong that we were expecting more from him, more consistency. He didn’t try maybe as much. He didn’t give the impression of always being 100%. With hindsight, what harmed him was his behaviour off the pitch. We were less talented but we wanted it more than him.”
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Genesio would betray a similar frustration with Ndombele last season, when he wondered in public how he could be so good against Manchester City in the Champions League but so disappointing in some lower-profile games. It is rare to hear Genesio putting such criticisms on the record and it created headlines. That said, he could have applied them to virtually any of his Lyon players and Ndombele’s youth and lack of top-level experience surely had to be considered.
Ndombele had another problem at Guingamp – a propensity to be slightly overweight – and it was cited among the reasons for the refusal to give him a senior deal. “People told me he could put on weight,” said Philippe Le Maire, who was on the club’s youth staff. “To put it in simple terms – he built his bottom half before the top.”