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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
rangercol said:
Spot on.
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I can totally sympathise with someone who doesn’t feel any party represents their views well. I am one of those after all.

I can’t sympathise with someone who feels that way and happens to vote Tory anyway. I think everyone deep down knows what this Tory party is. For some people that’s just no bad thing, deep down.
 
Sooperhoop said:
Sometimes the 'no vote' says a lot more, none of the Lab/Lib/Tory offered anything I would happily back. Your condescending attitude is why Labour is such a long way from winning and as someone who voted Labour for some 40 years it really pisses me off...
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Mate I sincerely doubt more understanding attitudes would somehow have Labour close to winning. The people of this country have been poisoned by propaganda for decades.
 
Stroller said:
A interesting piece on how the Tories' mania for austerity and dislike of experts has contributed to the consequences of recent flooding being worse than they should have been. It also makes a good point about how the government gets a largely uncritical free ride from the media.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/spot...ehold-the-results/ar-BB10iI7Z?ocid=spartanntp
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The Guardian... <yikes>
I knew the Tories were powerful but to create storms and rising water is a new one on me?
Shame they didn't mention the reason for austerity was due to Labour spending all the country's money leaving them little choice.
 
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ELLERS said:
The Guardian... <yikes>
I knew the Tories were powerful but to create storms and rising water is a new one on me?
Shame they didn't mention the reason for austerity was due to Labour spending all the country's money leaving them little choice.
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Bruv they’ve had a decade. Austerity firstly doesn’t work and secondly is now very clearly a choice rather than there being any serious argument for it being a necessity.

They could have prepared better for this weather. They knew it was coming. They had been warned.
 
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ELLERS said:
The Guardian... <yikes>
I knew the Tories were powerful but to create storms and rising water is a new one on me?
Shame they didn't mention the reason for austerity was due to Labour spending all the country's money leaving them little choice.
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Perfect. That's pretty much word for word how I would have expected you to respond, totally ignoring the points made in the article.
 
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West WindsR said:
Bruv they’ve had a decade. Austerity firstly doesn’t work and secondly is now very clearly a choice rather than there being any serious argument for it being a necessity.

They could have prepared better for this weather. They knew it was coming. They had been warned.
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Labour had more years before (spending all the money). You were too young in 95 to understand exactly what Labour were doing. Spent too much money on wars and trying to be popular. As for being prepared for such things... mmm
 
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Stroller said:
Perfect. That's pretty much word for word how I would have expected you to respond, totally ignoring the points made in the article.
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The Guardian has an axe to grind with the Tories (like some others). I sit and listen to their reporters when the do the 'Papers' on Sky and BBC and they all say the same anti-Tory crap. It's pointless bothering to read their stuff.
You better get used to the Tories because they will be in power for at least 10-15yrs.
 
ELLERS said:
Labour had more years before (spending all the money). You were too young in 95 to understand exactly what Labour were doing. Spent too much money on wars and trying to be popular. As for being prepared for such things... mmm
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Debt as a percentage of GDP was low throughout Labour’s time until the crisis hit and has got worse since the Tories took over but I’m sure you’re right.
 
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colognehornet said:
How are you going to control migration without ruining the London tourist industry which is dependent on short stay visitors from the EU ? Nobody has yet answered the question of how you can deter unwanted immigrants without also deterring the vast majority of people who just want to come, spend their money, and then go. All of the suggestions I have heard, such as getting visitors to apply for visa free status, will destroy tourism to the capital. Casual weekenders will go to Paris or Vienna instead.
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I've seen nothing to suggest that visas will be brought in. The UK may require passports from EU travellers and not just i.d. cards as at present. Otherwise, EU tourists are the same as Americans, where tourists don't need visas coming to the UK if the stay is up to 6 months
 
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West WindsR said:
Debt as a percentage of GDP was low throughout Labour’s time until the crisis hit and has got worse since the Tories took over but I’m sure you’re right.
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You never discuss the money wasted by Labour. As for the crisis... they handled that well didn't they?
You live in Brackers, you ever want to talk about Labour and its effects on people I am more than happy to discuss.
I don't need to look up any facts or figures because I saw it first hand. Hospitals/Schools/Business.
Labour should never be let near this country's money again (well they won't for at least 10-15 years thank god).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...LLION-spending-spree-How-millions-wasted.html
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
I've seen nothing to suggest that visas will be brought in. The UK may require passports from EU travellers and not just i.d. cards as at present. Otherwise, EU tourists are the same as Americans, where tourists don't need visas coming to the UK if the stay is up to 6 months
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He is talking rubbish. He was trying to say that tourists won't be allowed to come here and we will lose money. Utter rubbish... project fear mark IV. Boris brought us the most successful olympics with tourists from all over the World and once we leave the 'Third EU Reich' tourists will still come.
 
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