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Queen BANS Prince Harry and Meghan Markle from using lucrative 'Sussex Royal' brand that they hoped to use to build new lives because 'they simply cannot sell themselves as Royals’
  • The Duke and Duchess of Sussex spent tens of thousands of pounds on a new Sussex Royal website and their hugely popular Instagram feed
  • Couple sought to register Sussex Royal as global trademark for a range of items and activities, including clothing, stationery, books and social-care services
  • Also looked to set up a new charitable organisation – Sussex Royal, The Foundation of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex
  • But the Queen and senior officials are believed to have agreed it is no longer tenable for Harry and Meghan to keep the word 'royal' in their 'branding'
By Rebecca English Royal Correspondent For The Daily Mail

Published: 09:05 AEDT, 19 February 2020 | Updated: 10:34 AEDT, 19 February 2020



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The Duke and Duchess of Sussex must drop their 'Sussex Royal' label after deciding to step down as working royals.

Following lengthy and complex talks, the Queen and senior officials are believed to have agreed it is no longer tenable for the couple to keep the word 'royal' in their 'branding'.

Harry and Meghan have spent tens of thousands of pounds on a new Sussex Royal website to complement their hugely popular Instagram feed.

They have also sought to register Sussex Royal as a global trademark for a range of items and activities, including clothing, stationery, books and teaching materials.

In addition, they have taken steps to set up a new charitable organisation: Sussex Royal, The Foundation of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

It has now been made clear that they will need to 're-brand'.

The Mail understands that, amid what has been described as a 'complex' situation, the 'fine detail' is still being thrashed out.

However, it is understood the couple have accepted that, as part of their new working arrangements, they will not be able to use the Sussex Royal name as they had hoped.

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Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex leaving after attending a Commonwealth Day Service at Westminster Abbey in central London last March

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Harry and Meghan have spent tens of thousands of pounds on a new Sussex Royal website, sussexroyal.com, to complement their hugely popular Instagram feed. It has now been made clear that they will need to 're-brand'

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The development is thought to represent a major blow to the Sussexes, who now face starting again and re-registering everything from their website to their charity under a new label.

Harry and Meghan first began using the Sussex Royal branding this time last year, after they split their household from that of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge – known as Kensington Royal.

The Sussexes' Instagram page, @sussexroyal, has amassed 11.2million followers – the same number of fans as William and Kate's account.

It was a natural progression, therefore, for Harry and Meghan to use the moniker for their new charitable foundation, due to be launched this year with the support of Buckingham Palace.

And as they secretly prepared for a new life in Canada, it was clear that Sussex Royal was at the forefront of Harry and Meghan's plans.

Dozens of trademark applications were made for everything from bandanas to notebooks – although sources have always stressed that these were preventative measures to protect the trademark from others, and never intended for commercial use.

The couple also privately commissioned a new website. It went live last month to coincide with their bombshell announcement, with the introduction: 'Welcome to the Sussex Royal community, your source for information on the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.'

Quite right.
 
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I see the usual hashtag ,triggered lunatic left brigade are all up in arms because a few people over the age of 30 ask who Dave is, or what exactly it is he does, still I suppose because some or most on here are over 30/40/50 and have no interest in modern C-rap music or Grime or any of its by products of gun and knife crime we must therefore under modern WOKE definition be all of or at least one of the following racist, xenophobic islamaphobic and Homophobic or god forbid a leave voter !!!!
But maybe I ask who he is because I like music to be Actual music and not the modern accepted crap about Rapping oops sorry crying about how society ruined your life and blaming everybody else ‘cause yo bitch is a Hoe and 50 f*cked yo **** up and now yo gotta smack ya bitch up etc so therefore have never heard him or any other modern day blame artists, oops sorry again I mean Crappers, damn, sorry Rap artists <whistle>

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Scale of immigration and control over it was a large part. But there was a lot more. Have you read the speech, Strolls?

I did read it, but it didn't tell me much - I'm not really interested in Edmund Burke's views on the EU. It seems to me that this government has little or no intention of securing a trade deal. Certainly, the promise to secure frictionless trade seems to have been abandoned.
 
I see the usual hashtag ,triggered lunatic left brigade are all up in arms because a few people over the age of 30 ask who Dave is, or what exactly it is he does, still I suppose because some or most on here are over 30/40/50 and have no interest in modern C-rap music or Grime or any of its by products of gun and knife crime we must therefore under modern WOKE definition be all of or at least one of the following racist, xenophobic islamaphobic and Homophobic or god forbid a leave voter !!!!
But maybe I ask who he is because I like music to be Actual music and not the modern accepted crap about Rapping oops sorry crying about how society ruined your life and blaming everybody else ‘cause yo bitch is a Hoe and 50 f*cked yo **** up and now yo gotta smack ya bitch up etc so therefore have never heard him or any other modern day blame artists, oops sorry again I mean Crappers, damn, sorry Rap artists <whistle>

Another classic. Seek help, honestly.
 
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A draft of the 27 EU nations' position on negotiations with Britain on their future relationship seeks the 'return or restitution of unlawfully removed cultural objects to their countries of origin'

that will be every museum in Europe emptied then
 
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'They allowed the perfect storm': UN expert damns New Zealand's housing crisis
Special rapporteur says successive governments have contributed to what she called a ‘human rights crisis’

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United Nations Special Rapporteur on the Right to Adequate Housing Leilani Farha said New Zealand’s housing crisis is tragic Photograph: Chandan Khanna/AFP/Getty Images


When Leilani Farha touches down in a new city, the first thing the UN special rapporteur on the right to adequate housing does is look up.

In Melbourne, Toronto, London and Dublin, the skies above are filled with cranes, Farha says, soaring across the skylineto construct new homes for their booming populations.

Last week Farha arrived in Wellington on a fact-finding mission, lured by the headlines of a housing crisis, chronic homelessness, and motels bulging with desperate families for months at a time – all occurring with a new progressive government at the helm.

“I didn’t see cranes in the sky, which is suggestive of not a lot of development – that struck me right away,” says Farha, a plain-talking Canadian. “They allowed the perfect storm, and that’s successive governments. It’s really a bit tragic. It’s a human rights crisis.”

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As special rapporteur since 2014, Farha’s missions have included fact-finding trips to India, Portugal and Chile, but as her last mission, New Zealand piqued her interest for its large Indigenous population (16% Māori), progressive left-leaning government led by Jacinda Ardern, and entrenched issues with homelessness, affordable housing, rampant property speculation and poor-quality homes.

According to the recent Demographia International survey, New Zealand has one of the most unaffordable housing markets in the world, and over the past decade homelessness has increased to more than 40,000, or 1 in 100 Kiwis – with working families also now feeling the bite, with some forced to sleep in cars, tents and shipping containers – despite being in full-time employment.

It requires an urgent response, and that’s what I am not sure I’ve seen

Leilani Farha, UN special rapporteur
Recently the waiting list for state housing hit a record high, and the government scaled back its flagship KiwiBuild programme, which had aimed to build 100,000 affordable home in 10 years – but managed to build only 47 in six months.

“The bottom line is sadly we don’t have any strategic housing plan as a country, there’s no strategic plan in terms of making a difference,” said Bernie Smith, the chief executive officer of Monte Cecilia Housing Trust, which houses homeless families in south Auckland. “There’s a hell of a lot of money going into motels and transitional housing, but very little going into building homes.”

On the 10-day mission, Farha visited an Auckland marae that has housed homeless families over the winter, cramped motels in the Hutt valley that are being used as emergency housing, and boarding houses she describes as “deplorable”. On her hotel doorstep, too, there were people sleeping rough.

“If people in New Zealand continue to call it a housing crisis it obfuscates what is going on here … the conditions are really stark,” Farha says, citing damp, mouldy homes that cause chronic illnesses of poverty, and rampant housing discrimination against Māori, Pasifika and those with disabilities.

“It’s in sizeable proportions, and it requires an urgent response, and that’s what I am not sure I’ve seen.”


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Leilani Farha says New Zealand’s problem is more a human rights crisis than a housing crisis. Photograph: David Wall/Alamy Stock Photo
Though there were some positive points (the government’s housing-first approach to tackling homelessness was applauded), Farha says the scale of the problem in New Zealand has gone far beyond a housing crisis – it’s a human rights crisis, and the Ardern government appear somewhat in denial, though Farha stresses they are “trying”.

Among other recommendations, Farha is hopeful the government will immediately appoint a commissioner or watchdog to oversee housing issues, introduce an overarching framework for all housing policy based on human-rights principles, and legislate to make housing a human right for all.

The failure to implement a capital gains tax has drawn Farha’s scorn, as has the three-year electoral cycle, which she observes keeps governments in campaign mode, and makes them too timid to enact sweeping, “courageous” changes needed to tackle the “urgent, entrenched” problems which have bedded in since before the global financial crisis under successive governments.

Māori have been homeless since the 1860s

Leilani Farha
“I’ve seen and heard a lot of interesting and thoughtful policies, but I think what remains to be seen here is courageous acts, creative measures, and structural change,” says Farha. “In terms of innovation, I just didn’t get a feeling that really creative ideas were being explored. It’s a little bit same-old, same-old.”

During the trip, Farha spent a good deal of time talking to Māori people, who are disproportionately affected by the housing crisis, as are Pasifika peoples and those with disabilities.

Farha says for Māori the housing crisis goes much deeper than a home with four walls, and their self-determination must be written into all future rights-based housing policies.

“It became so clear to me and was beautifully articulated for me that Māori have been homeless since the 1860s,” says Farha.

“It was profound to be in the company of people who were searching for so much more than four walls and a roof. And the only way they’ll reach where they want to get is a complete reorientation of relationship with government.”

The housing crisis in New Zealand can be “hidden”, Farha says, as the streets of the country have an overall feeling of well-being. On her visit, Farha was frequently overcome with a feeling of “outrage” at the conditions New Zealanders were living in – and a secondary sense of outrage, at the lack of urgency surrounding the emergency, which put lives at risk.

”I think New Zealand let things go and it is really unfortunate.” she says. “But I did have a sense of outrage … this is urgent.”
 
Below average intelligence, well that’s you covered then, start behaving when they try to fix you.

There really isn’t any fixing you, you’ve demonstrated that. Maybe one day you’ll actually make a valid point on here but it’s more likely you’ll carry on with your bitter ill informed rants it’s pretty EMBARRASSING really. Tommeh would be proud though <party>
 
There really isn’t any fixing you, you’ve demonstrated that. Maybe one day you’ll actually make a valid point on here but it’s more likely you’ll carry on with your bitter ill informed rants it’s pretty EMBARRASSING really. Tommeh would be proud though <party>
There you go again using assumptions to associate me with something or someone to justify your own WOKE agenda, as I’ve said previously you really are a special kind of ****ing stupid.
 
I did read it, but it didn't tell me much - I'm not really interested in Edmund Burke's views on the EU. It seems to me that this government has little or no intention of securing a trade deal. Certainly, the promise to secure frictionless trade seems to have been abandoned.

It's pretty clear the EU want to bind the UK into its decision making through standards, use of the ECJ etc. It won't work. But there's a lot of brinkmanship about, so we'll see.
 
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There you go again using assumptions to associate me with something or someone to justify your own WOKE agenda, as I’ve said previously you really are a special kind of ****ing stupid.

go on what’s a woke agenda? Oh you say I make assumptions about you then turn around and do exactly the same ..... it’s really frustrating having to explain basic things in the most simplistic ways to you.... and you still don’t have the mental capacity to grasp things. Just so you know your schoolyard insults have no effect on me, it just shows your major limitations. So that’s another post from you that says absolutely nothing. Like WWR says you really need to seek help.
 
go on what’s a woke agenda? Oh you say I make assumptions about you then turn around and do exactly the same ..... it’s really frustrating having to explain basic things in the most simplistic ways to you.... and you still don’t have the mental capacity to grasp things. Just so you know your schoolyard insults have no effect on me, it just shows your major limitations. So that’s another post from you that says absolutely nothing. Like WWR says you really need to seek help.
Hahahahahahahaha, still more dribble from a complete horses arse, your really boring me now you absolute goon.
 
Hahahahahahahaha, still more dribble from a complete horses arse, your really boring me now you absolute goon.

What’s this woke agenda you mentioned? Care to explain what you mean by that? Or by your refusal to do so far am I to understand you can’t and it’s meaningless words. What’s your opinion on the far right terrorist attack, it does seem to be an escalating problem.