Obvs you have a lot of experience of flights.You still here? No flights?
So should we close the thread now? We're on page 98. Maybe wait till we hit 100?
Never said it would be , I said it should be. Point being if labour don’t take a long hard look at themselves, after a piss poor performance against a unpopular government that have held us in austerity for eight years and more, they’re £@@ked. Already blaming it solely on Brexit . [HASHTAG]#delusional[/HASHTAG]It'll never be a piece of piss because the Tory /establishment owned media will continue to look after their own interests and manipulate any vote.
Labours only chance is to choose a Tory/Blairesq leader who the media//business world/ allow.
Problem is that's nothing to do with Labour's values and does nothing to challenge this perverse establishmentism.
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Difficult question. I think the whole Brexit thing would have been simpler if MPs of all parties hadn’t ignored what people wanted (and which some are paying for now) which weakened our hand, If we hadn’t gold plated EU regulations, doing more than they required whilst other countries like France ignored what didn’t suit them, and ignoring ones like being able to send people home who come with no job and still don’t have one after 3 months.
I remember going on holiday toGermany with my parents in 1963, only 18 years after the war a short time span as you get older. We went to Hamburg and Bremen which had been flattened in the war. Booming, with bright lights everywhere bars open until 3 and 4 in the morning, a lot of which I could go in with them, having sailed from
Hull where it was dark and shut down by 11pm. De Gaulle had just said NON! again to us joining thevEEC.My dad bought a British paper from a newsstand and looking down a road in Bremen , full of gleaming shop fronts and streams of Mercs ( BMWs were a lower class car in those days) said to my mother “ We’ve missed the boat. By the time we get in it will be all carved up and we’ll miss out”. As I said previously, my dad, who I spent all of the 60s and much of the 70s telling how wrong he was and how much better things would be when we were running things, like Mark Twain’s dad, became wiser as I got older. I remember in the 1960s when Wilson was PM telling him when my generation was running things it would be better. He took umbrage at being classed with Wilson, who he couldn’t stand. Of course it came to pass when we had a PM of my generation, John Major. Sorry dad...
I think people not wanting to vote for a Marxist racist who supported terrorists who wanted to disband NATO and wasn’t prepared to defend his country might have had something to do with it.I get that people don’t like Corbyn, but what I honestly don’t get is that people think Johnson is better. He lies, he misleads, he’s evasive - his former boss Max Hastings is pretty damning.
he does have that superficial charm thing I suppose - it’s very depressing that people fall for it. He’s like that idiot at work that spends all his time chatting up the women and sucking up to the bosses but actually does very little work, and the little he does actually do is ****e and has to be redone by someone else.
if I’m trying to be positive after three hours of swearing at the telly, at least we’ll know what impact Brexit has next year, and we can start trying to deal with it. I have faith in this country as a hard working and innovative nation, we’ll try and make the best of a bad job, providing the government don’t cock it up completely. I still worry for the sick, the disabled, the old & vulnerable though.
It was Corbyn, and the Labour party know that. The election of a new leader is complicated and it will take time.Never said it would be , I said it should be. Point being if labour don’t take a long hard look at themselves, after a piss poor performance against a unpopular government that have held us in austerity for eight years and more, they’re £@@ked. Already blaming it solely on Brexit . [HASHTAG]#delusional[/HASHTAG]
Brexit-supporting parties got 48% of the vote, yes that means overwhelming support for Brexit.
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It was Corbyn, and the Labour party know that. The election of a new leader is complicated and it will take time.
So some claim it was the bias of the media that got the Party who want to take us out of the EU elected, but now the BBC are pushing the line that only 48% of voters backed a leave party suggesting the country as a whole wants to remain. I think they just like to be provocative and **** stir.
For those who understand this waaaay better than me. What effect did the agreement made between the Conservatives and Farage have?...