Off Topic General Election Special

[brownbagtiger]

I get that people don’t like Corbyn, but what I honestly don’t get is that people think Johnson is better. He lies, he misleads, he’s evasive - his former boss Max Hastings is pretty damning.

he does have that superficial charm thing I suppose - it’s very depressing that people fall for it. He’s like that idiot at work that spends all his time chatting up the women and sucking up to the bosses but actually does very little work, and the little he does actually do is ****e and has to be redone by someone else.

if I’m trying to be positive after three hours of swearing at the telly, at least we’ll know what impact Brexit has next year, and we can start trying to deal with it. I have faith in this country as a hard working and innovative nation, we’ll try and make the best of a bad job, providing the government don’t cock it up completely. I still worry for the sick, the disabled, the old & vulnerable though.

 

[Barchullona]

Ha. When I first read that I was thinking an SWP bloke was door knocking in Brid.

Hellfire.

There was one. I used to know him, massive Blunts fan.

 

[Leon...]

There was one. I used to know him, massive Blunts fan.

Serious question.

It looks like Johnson has a stonking majority.

What do you hope for and what sort of Brexit would you prefer?

 

[Barchullona]

I get that people don’t like Corbyn, but what I honestly don’t get is that people think Johnson is better. He lies, he misleads, he’s evasive - his former boss Max Hastings is pretty damning.

he does have that superficial charm thing I suppose - it’s very depressing that people fall for it. He’s like that idiot at work that spends all his time chatting up the women and sucking up to the bosses but actually does very little work, and the little he does actually do is ****e and has to be redone by someone else.

if I’m trying to be positive after three hours of swearing at the telly, at least we’ll know what impact Brexit has next year, and we can start trying to deal with it. I have faith in this country as a hard working and innovative nation, we’ll try and make the best of a bad job, providing the government don’t cock it up completely. I still worry for the sick, the disabled, the old & vulnerable though.

I don’t have much confidence in Johnson. It just shows how poor Corbyn is. A Gaitskell or a Wilson would have romped to victory. Not that I was a fan of Wilson but Gaitskell was pretty good. Healey would have romped it as well if he had been in charge.

 

[Mr Hatem]

I once has a SWP bloke knock on my door in Hull. I tried to gently tell him that knocking on doors on a street off Princes Avenue where everyone buying there house waving a paper whose headline said”Abolish Private Property” wasn’t a good example of targeted marketing.

Where is Castro? Corrections needed.

 

[Clovis Iscariot]

Maybe indicates uncertainty of the reason, not uncertainty of whether I read what the Guardian have said. I read what they said in 2017, at the time no less and it rang pretty true. I haven't seen a 2019 version, but if I'm honest, I haven't looked. Nothing in my RSS feed. In any case, I know they back Labour, they're not owned by a multi-billionaire Conservative well wisher, I'd be very surprised if they backed Johnson.

I didn't assume anything about you, by the way, you're providing evidence through what you write, which is what I'm basing what I say on.

Maybe is not really uncertainty of the reason,

 

[Clovis Iscariot]

I firmly believe that Labour would have done so much better if they had respected the result of the referendum and became a Leave party. Unfortunately, the vast majority of the membership wanted to remain and as they select the leader it complicated things for Corbyn. I voted to leave, democracy was trashed after the referendum and the results are clear tonight. It didnt help that the policies of Labour wouldn’t have made Trotsky blush. The game appears to be over for the democracy deniers.

 

[Barchullona]

Serious question.

It looks like Johnson has a stonking majority.

What do you hope for and what sort of Brexit would you prefer?

Difficult question. I think the whole Brexit thing would have been simpler if MPs of all parties hadn’t ignored what people wanted (and which some are paying for now) which weakened our hand, If we hadn’t gold plated EU regulations, doing more than they required whilst other countries like France ignored what didn’t suit them, and ignoring ones like being able to send people home who come with no job and still don’t have one after 3 months.
I remember going on holiday toGermany with my parents in 1963, only 18 years after the war a short time span as you get older. We went to Hamburg and Bremen which had been flattened in the war. Booming, with bright lights everywhere bars open until 3 and 4 in the morning, a lot of which I could go in with them, having sailed from
Hull where it was dark and shut down by 11pm. De Gaulle had just said NON! again to us joining thevEEC.My dad bought a British paper from a newsstand and looking down a road in Bremen , full of gleaming shop fronts and streams of Mercs ( BMWs were a lower class car in those days) said to my mother “ We’ve missed the boat. By the time we get in it will be all carved up and we’ll miss out”. As I said previously, my dad, who I spent all of the 60s and much of the 70s telling how wrong he was and how much better things would be when we were running things, like Mark Twain’s dad, became wiser as I got older. I remember in the 1960s when Wilson was PM telling him when my generation was running things it would be better. He took umbrage at being classed with Wilson, who he couldn’t stand. Of course it came to pass when we had a PM of my generation, John Major. Sorry dad...

 

[Barchullona]

Where is Castro? Corrections needed.

You still here? No flights?

 

[originallambrettaman]

You've reposted a photoshopped image, the piss taking of Diane Abbott is racist, and you should be ashamed.

Behave yourself, I posted it because I thought it was funny, her race had absolutely nothing to do with it.

 

[Barchullona]

Behave yourself, I posted it because I thought it was funny, her race had absolutely nothing to do with it.

I think SteveRico had his tongue firmly in his cheek when he posted that.

 

[Barchullona]

Maybe is not really uncertainty of the reason,

Looks like Steven doesn’t realise the Guardian is owned by a tax minimising (avoiding) set up despite criticising others which do the same.

 

[Clovis Iscariot]

Looks like Steven doesn’t realise the Guardian is owned by a tax minimising (avoiding) set up despite criticising others which do the same.

I don’t understand why people who read The Guardian worship at the alter of the high priestess Polly Toynbee. Her articles in the main being written in her villa in Tuscany. That just about sums up socialism to me.

 

[Barchullona]

I don’t understand why people who read The Guardian worship at the alter of the high priestess Polly Toynbee. Her articles in the main being written in her villa in Tuscany. That just about sums up socialism to me.

Polly Toynbee seems quite decent and rational compared to Zoe Williams.

 

[Cambstiger]

There seems to be a lot of Labour candidates complaining that the election was too much about Brexit and not about their policies.

I don't really get this as the reason Boris Johnson called the General Election in the first place was due to Brexit being blocked all the time and, therefore, going to the polls was a way of either getting the majority he needed or handing it over to someone else. This election was always about Brexit.

Jeremy Corbyn did his party no favours at all by sitting on the fence. If he had the balls to say that he wanted Brexit he may have polled more votes, certainly in those staunch Labour areas that voted leave; particularly in the North. He may have alienated some of his own Remainers that voted him into the top job in the party and did not want to upset them but it does seem to have backfired against him.

 

[balkan tiger]

So, will prep school educated Corbyn, his Winchester educated adviser Seamus Milne, privately educated McDonnell, who has tried to cover up the fact, and public school educated founder of Momentum, Lansman, be departing and letting working class people with experience of the real world take over?

They're are talking about Jess/Tess Phillips the Brummy woman for leader, not sure of her background.

 

[Kempton]

So should we close the thread now? We're on page 98. Maybe wait till we hit 100?

 

[balkan tiger]

So should we close the thread now? We're on page 98. Maybe wait till we hit 100?

I think we need a few more hours for the post-mortem.

 

[SW3 Chelsea Tiger]

Where’s my free broadband ?

 

[Idi Amin]

Where’s my free broadband ?

If you think your broadband is expensive now, wait til it's free!!!