Off Topic General Election Special

[Edelman]

Yes, the Conservatives agenda has really frightened the Jewish community hasn’t it, it’s all over the MSM. But carry on defending the indefensible. The Guardian today endorsed Labour despite its antisemitism as it was a price worth paying. Really? I’ll take my chances on the other main player in this election.

So your happy with Boris and his Islamaphobia are you ?
Or maybe his homophobia is a more palatable trait ?

 

[Steven Toast]

So your happy with Boris and his Islamaphobia are you ?
Or maybe his homophobia is a more palatable trait ?

I think I know what he's going to say and I don't think it's going to make him look half as good as he thinks it will.

Thing is, if he wins, he'll be on such a roll that he'll slip up a lot sooner and more publicly than he would if he lost. He'll have further to fall, too.

 

[Clovis Iscariot]

Nice try. I'm not defending antisemitism; in fact, I just showed you half a dozen examples of it in action in the current government. Your response, rather interestingly, was not one of outrage or shock. So either you're aware of it and don't care, or you weren't aware of it but are seemingly non-plussed about it now it's come to light. You just accused me of defending it, but by proxy you've done the exact same thing.

Maybe the reason the Guardian are willing to put their rep on the line is that most of the rhetoric surrounding Corbyn is bollocks, did that ever cross your mind? Because there's a fair amount of Jewish people coming out and saying that the outrage isn't anything like what's being reported.

The mask, it seems, is starting to slip.

Your assumptions about me are very interesting. Also, you give a reason as to the Guardian’s stance by the use of the word maybe. I assumed, it would appear incorrectly by your response, that you had read the Guardian’s endorsement.

 

[Clovis Iscariot]

I think I know what he's going to say and I don't think it's going to make him look half as good as he thinks it will.

Thing is, if he wins, he'll be on such a roll that he'll slip up a lot sooner and more publicly than he would if he lost. He'll have further to fall, too.

Ha! Someone’s getting rattled. Maybe.

 

[Edelman]

I think I know what he's going to say and I don't think it's going to make him look half as good as he thinks it will.

Thing is, if he wins, he'll be on such a roll that he'll slip up a lot sooner and more publicly than he would if he lost. He'll have further to fall, too.

I think we are caught in such a bizzare situation that you can just make something up and as long as it fits their agenda it doesn't matter !
The people behind the referendum where qouted as saying don't give out facts people aren't interested in them !
It was easier to peddle lies about Turkey and Albania being admitted to the EU .
The whole leave campaign was built on playing on people's fears .
It was project fear forced upon the public then turned around and used as their slogan !

 

[Steven Toast]

Your assumptions about me are very interesting. Also, you give a reason as to the Guardian’s stance by the use of the word maybe. I assumed, it would appear incorrectly by your response, that you had read the Guardian’s endorsement.

Maybe indicates uncertainty of the reason, not uncertainty of whether I read what the Guardian have said. I read what they said in 2017, at the time no less and it rang pretty true. I haven't seen a 2019 version, but if I'm honest, I haven't looked. Nothing in my RSS feed. In any case, I know they back Labour, they're not owned by a multi-billionaire Conservative well wisher, I'd be very surprised if they backed Johnson.

I didn't assume anything about you, by the way, you're providing evidence through what you write, which is what I'm basing what I say on.

 

[Edelman]

Your assumptions about me are very interesting. Also, you give a reason as to the Guardian’s stance by the use of the word maybe. I assumed, it would appear incorrectly by your response, that you had read the Guardian’s endorsement.

Maybe you confuse somebody criticising a regime rather than a religion ?

 

[Steven Toast]

I think we are caught in such a bizzare situation that you can just make something up and as long as it fits their agenda it doesn't matter !
The people behind the referendum where qouted as saying don't give out facts people aren't interested in them !
It was easier to peddle lies about Turkey and Albania being admitted to the EU .
The whole leave campaign was built on playing on people's fears .
It was project fear forced upon the public then turned around and used as their slogan !

As I said earlier, I find it quite interesting they can be so laid back in quoting bullshit like Turkey wanting to join the EU, or the Lisbon Treaty, or a flood of illegal immigrants taking over, but apparently quoting economic experts predicting economic uncertainty is "Project Fear" or "scaremongering".

 

[Edelman]

As I said earlier, I find it quite interesting they can be so laid back in quoting bullshit like Turkey wanting to join the EU, or the Lisbon Treaty, or a flood of illegal immigrants taking over, but apparently quoting economic experts predicting economic uncertainty is "Project Fear" or "scaremongering".

I often wonder what the scenario would be if all of Europe spoke English or the EU headquarters where based in London !
Eurosceptics seem to spin it as Us v Them .
Brussels being the enemy ?
Pushing the narrative into people that they undermine our values
I generally find that people are the same whatever ..

 

[Cambstiger]

This.

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This makes an interesting read.

https://fullfact.org/economy/poverty-uk-guide-facts-and-figures/

 

[Amin Arrears]

Run by a Tory donor. Facts by tories.

Cant be trusted.

 

[dennisboothstash]

My guess would be on the later.

No need to guess though
Tax decisions are made by Govt and we choose them
It’s up to us, collectively, to decide which party is more likely to ensure that doesn’t happen (assuming you don’t want it to)

 

[amberman8]

Well I'm off to vote...I'm just trying to the SNP here....bastards

 

[dennisboothstash]

Probably vote conservative. Don't really like any of the parties or any of the politicians.

No one likes politicians

just read the manifestos and decide which one would help you and your family the most if they were fully implemented , then vote for them.

 

[dennisboothstash]

The article basically says it mean they can use everything off the NHS website, which doesn't particularly bother me.

What does bother me is Amazon a) not paying enough tax and b) using child labour.

Why are you voting Conservative?
Not saying you’re wrong, I’m only asking as Labour would tax Amazon much more.

 

[Ron Burguvdy]

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[Amin Arrears]

Run by a Tory donor. Facts by tories.

Cant be trusted.

 

[Phinius T Bookbinder]

No one likes politicians

just read the manifestos and decide which one would help you and your family the most if they were fully implemented , then vote for them.

What? You mean think about it for ourselves. That won’t catch on..

 

[Mr Hatem]

I've done my bit to boot out Boris.
Over to you.

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[dennisboothstash]

What? You mean think about it for ourselves. That won’t catch on..

And actually read too

I know...too radical