General Election 2019

[superhorns]

Jeremy Corbyn is really special. He has this ability to watch the Queen's speech on Xmas day morning when everybody else watches in the afternoon.!!!

If he is going to lie he should learn a few more facts, he made himself look soooooo stupid.

watch it, so funny.

'You don't watch the Queen's Speech, do you Jeremy Corbyn?' Labour leader is caught out pretending he watches Her Majesty in the MORNING on Christmas Day in cringe-worthy interview - then reveals he would let homeless people move into Chequers

 

[Saf]

Scotland currently meets most EU criteria for membership, already complying with EU laws and regulations. The mood from Brussels is very different to that of 2014 - when Scotland voted on leaving an EU state, the main message being that if a Scottish independence referendum is legally and constitutionally valid then Scotland is set for a reasonably swift accession process. For the EFTA states such as Finland the process only took 2 years. The only real problem could be currency - the Scots think they could continue to use Sterling for a time after independence, this is denied south of the border. However this problem can be got around - there are several countries which use the US dollar without asking for the American's permission to do so. The main thing is that an independent Scotland would satisfy the democratic conditions for joining the EU - actually England (the remainder of the UK) could have problems trying to rejoin for this reason - attacks on the independence of the judiciary definitely don't go down well under EU laws. I am sure that if the will is there on both sides then Scotland will have a relatively smooth transition into the EU - just think, a future Scotland could veto prospective deals between England (what's left after Brexit) and the EU

Sorry but that's a complete load of ****e.

Scotland would need to get their deficit down to 3% and that would take at least 15 years.

That's the rules.

 

[Saf]

As the UK pays significantly more into the EU than it receives it is quite different to Scotland leaving the UK as it also receives much financial assistance from London. If, as looks likely, we leave without a deal, then the last thing Scotland needs is unnecessary tariff barriers with the rest of the UK. There is a possibility that the UK may be slightly poorer leaving the EU, Scotland leaving the security of its London paymaster would result in certain financial insecurity. During the last Scottish referendum the SNP grossly misjudged revenue from the North Sea. Oil revenue will be a tiny fraction of the previous estimate. Apart from fried mars bars and whiskey I cannot think of any more income streams.

They shut down the big whisky facility in Kilmarnock just a few years ago after operating for nearly 200 years. It cost over 700 jobs. Not sure whiskey can be relied on now.

The SNP have stated they'll be a global leader in climate change whilst telling their audience they also will not stop extracting oil.

Super duper hospital in Edinburgh was supposed to be finished in 2012 but it's still ongoing.

Yet another child has unfortunately passed away at the Glasgow hospital as they're struggling keeping infections under control.

They have by far the highest drug death rate in Europe and it's still rising.

The ScotRail trains are badly managed and in desperate need of modernisation.

Projects around the country unable to finish due to lack of finance.

Go independent Scotland

 

[colognehornet]

Sorry but that's a complete load of ****e.

Scotland would need to get their deficit down to 3% and that would take at least 15 years.

That's the rules.

All the more reason why Scotland should leave the UK in order to control its own economic policies, because it is, quite obviously, not doing well as part of the UK. I think you will find that quite a few countries have joined the EU whilst having a budget deficit at the time of joining - countries which now, no longer, have that - such as Rumania and Poland.

 

[Saf]

All the more reason why Scotland should leave the UK in order to control its own economic policies, because it is, quite obviously, not doing well as part of the UK. I think you will find that quite a few countries have joined the EU whilst having a budget deficit at the time of joining - countries which now, no longer, have that - such as Rumania and Poland.

They were doing better in the UK before powers were dissolved and they started to run it themselves

 

[colognehornet]

They shut down the big whisky facility in Kilmarnock just a few years ago after operating for nearly 200 years. It cost over 700 jobs. Not sure whiskey can be relied on now.

The SNP have stated they'll be a global leader in climate change whilst telling their audience they also will not stop extracting oil.

Super duper hospital in Edinburgh was supposed to be finished in 2012 but it's still ongoing.

Yet another child has unfortunately passed away at the Glasgow hospital as they're struggling keeping infections under control.

They have by far the highest drug death rate in Europe and it's still rising.

The ScotRail trains are badly managed and in desperate need of modernisation.

Projects around the country unable to finish due to lack of finance.

Go independent Scotland

False use of statistics I'm afraid Saffy. The figures for drug related deaths in England are diluted by some very wealthy areas, which brings the figure down. If you look at the figures for Liverpool or Hull they are every bit as bad as in Scotland. The fact is that Scotland has more deprived areas than England does because it was so disproportionally hit by deindustrialisation in the past.

 

[Saf]

False use of statistics I'm afraid Saffy. The figures for drug related deaths in England are diluted by some very wealthy areas, which brings the figure down. If you look at the figures for Liverpool or Hull they are every bit as bad as in Scotland. The fact is that Scotland has more deprived areas than England does because it was so disproportionally hit by deindustrialisation in the past.

Not sure what you're disagreeing with here?

Are you suggesting that I was wrong to say that Scotland has the highest drug deaths in Europe?

 

[colognehornet]

Not sure what you're disagreeing with here?

Are you suggesting that I was wrong to say that Scotland has the highest drug deaths in Europe?

It has the highest rate of drug deaths in Europe if you treat it as an independent country, which it isn't. As far as Europe is concerned it is a European region, comparable with the North West of England or Nordrheinwestfalen (North Rhine Westphalia) and, as such, can only be measured like for like. The only 'country' which can be used for purposes of European comparison is the UK as a whole (at least at the moment).

 

[Saf]

It has the highest rate of drug deaths in Europe if you treat it as an independent country, which it isn't. As far as Europe is concerned it is a European region, comparable with the North West of England or Nordrheinwestfalen (North Rhine Westphalia) and, as such, can only be measured like for like. The only 'country' which can be used for purposes of European comparison is the UK as a whole (at least at the moment).

This is an unbelievably strange reply.

I don't really give a **** about how Europe is concerned about counting it. Scotland has the highest drug deaths in Europe

 

[colognehornet]

This is an unbelievably strange reply.

I don't really give a **** about how Europe is concerned about counting it. Scotland has the highest drug deaths in Europe

There is no way that you can claim that as a fact unless you have compared it to all other European regions. It is not a strange reply because England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are not countries - any more than Bavaria, North Rhine Westphalia or Holland or any other European region are countries. The only unit which can be used for international comparison is the UK as a whole.

 

[Scullion]

I would not pop over here Cologne and state that England, Scotland, Wales and NI are not countries!
Germany may be a European region but we are not!

 

[Saf]

There is no way that you can claim that as a fact unless you have compared it to all other European regions. It is not a strange reply because England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are not countries - any more than Bavaria, North Rhine Westphalia or Holland or any other European region are countries. The only unit which can be used for international comparison is the UK as a whole.

Scotland has the highest drug deaths in Europe

Ffs you're even denying something that Nicola Sturgeon holds her hand up too

 

[Saf]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-48938509

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-48922805

 

[superhorns]

Scotland is the fried Mars bar capital of Europe, one of their 5 a day.

 

[colognehornet]

I would not pop over here Cologne and state that England, Scotland, Wales and NI are not countries!
Germany may be a European region but we are not!

I'm sorry Scully but the status of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland is debatable - England is, most definitely, not a country because it does not have a government. Germany is a country made up of European regions - just for the record North Rhine Westphalia has a government with powers comparable to those of Scotland - just as the city state of Hamburg has. Would you call Bavaria a country ?

 

[Saf]

I'm sorry Scully but the status of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland is debatable - England is, most definitely, not a country because it does not have a government. Germany is a country made up of European regions - just for the record North Rhine Westphalia has a government with powers comparable to those of Scotland - just as the city state of Hamburg has. Would you call Bavaria a country ?

I wonder how Scotland competes in international and European sports when they're aren't even a country?

Very strange indeed.

 

[colognehornet]

Scotland has the highest drug deaths in Europe

Ffs you're even denying something that Nicola Sturgeon holds her hand up too

I've already answered that - compare it to whole countries then it does. Compare it to parts of countries and it doesn't, and it is a 'part' of a country just as eg. Bavaria is to Germany. If you are telling me that Scotland is a country because it has a government, then you must also acknowledge that North Rhine Westphalia and Bavaria, or even the city states of Hamburg and Berlin are countries

 

[superhorns]

I wonder how Scotland competes in international and European sports when they're aren't even a country?

Very strange indeed.

Scotland should be disqualified for impersonating being a country. It's leader ends up in court anyway for dodgy sports.

 

[colognehornet]

I wonder how Scotland competes in international and European sports when they're aren't even a country?

Very strange indeed.

It is not a prerequisite to be a country in order to play as a football team in international sports - Saarland once played in the World Cup, and there is a Catalonian football team ! The UK has the power to choose whether to play as the UK or to play according to its constituent parts - just as other countries do. There would be nothing to stop Bavaria playing in the World cup, it's just that they choose not to.

 

[superhorns]

I've already answered that - compare it to whole countries then it does. Compare it to parts of countries and it doesn't, and it is a 'part' of a country just as eg. Bavaria is to Germany. If you are telling me that Scotland is a country because it has a government, then you must also acknowledge that North Rhine Westphalia and Bavaria, or even the city states of Hamburg and Berlin are countries

Can we just agree it is a cold place full of savages?