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Wor Welshie said:
I've gone into our last 4 seasons with the mindset we are aiming at being a mid table side.

If we lose, I don't really rage. We are still 15th, we have had a couple of fun games, the Bournemouth match being the most entertaining Newcastle have been in like 2 seasons. Yeah, we went away and lost a game. But that is mid table life.
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I tend to agree with this. We as a fan base are now alot more realistic than we were before Ashley took over. Our best bet is to enjoy the games like West Ham & Bournemouth but know that there will also be games like Leicester, Villa & Norwich. On a side note, Lejeune, Lascelles, Schar & Ritchie are definate starters when fit and we are yet to get them all on the pitch at the same time. All 4 were hugely missed last night inparticular.
 
Ritchies Magic Hat said:
I tend to agree with this. We as a fan base are now alot more realistic than we were before Ashley took over. Our best bet is to enjoy the games like West Ham & Bournemouth but know that there will also be games like Leicester, Villa & Norwich. On a side note, Lejeune, Lascelles, Schar & Ritchie are definate starters when fit and we are yet to get them all on the pitch at the same time. All 4 were hugely missed last night inparticular.
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the fans have been reprogrammed to accept paying for a low end product and over time this will continue until being a championship club is deemed as you say realistic. I have come to realise that a football club is only as big as it's owners vision and **** all to do with history , past glory and definitely nothing to do with fanbases. that's the fact and that's why supporting football clubs is just pure lunacy.
 
Steve Bruce said:
the fans have been reprogrammed to accept paying for a low end product and over time this will continue until being a championship club is deemed as you say realistic. I have come to realise that a football club is only as big as it's owners vision and **** all to do with history , past glory and definitely nothing to do with fanbases. that's the fact and that's why supporting football clubs is just pure lunacy.
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Tv money has killed fan power. Im one amazingly handsome, but ultimately singular person and my going crazy and drinking heavily after every game won't change our fortunes.

Accepting your club position and hoping for a positive change is sanity, protesting at the state of affairs is akin to tossing a glass of water at a forest fire.
 
Steve Bruce said:
the fans have been reprogrammed to accept paying for a low end product and over time this will continue until being a championship club is deemed as you say realistic. I have come to realise that a football club is only as big as it's owners vision and **** all to do with history , past glory and definitely nothing to do with fanbases. that's the fact and that's why supporting football clubs is just pure lunacy.
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If you take it to seriously it is. Just enjoy - we will lose some but you have expect that. Have a couple beers and cheer the **** up. It's only footy.
 
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Can we please also remember that we only lost a game, we have just come from 2 good results. Ok, we could have done some different formation porn and had a different midfield pairing, but we didn't, it happens, what the hell is everyone going mental for?
 
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General Lee Speaking said:
If you take it to seriously it is. Just enjoy - we will lose some but you have expect that. Have a couple beers and cheer the **** up. It's only footy.
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I don't drink mate and I enjoy being pissed off... it's more real … you see reality is cold and angry … fiction is a fruitless papering over cracks

in other words you're living a lie
 
Wor Welshie said:
Can we please also remember that we only lost a game, we have just come from 2 good results. Ok, we could have done some different formation porn and had a different midfield pairing, but we didn't, it happens, what the hell is everyone going mental for?
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can we please remember im basing my stance on the last 13 years and looking at the full picture … we are crap

i was trying my very best to tackle all the positivity and use all my reverse psychology powers , but oh no you all had to start delivering positive posts to sink me
 
Steve Bruce said:
can we please remember im basing my stance on the last 13 years and looking at he full picture … we are crap
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Yes.

I'm very disappointed in the managers we hire mostly, it's ****ing staggering to believe that Alan Pardew is the most successful manager this club has had in years, better than people before the Ashley era and every single one he has hired during it. With Rafa I expected after he signed some lads and got us playing his own way in his third season we would maybe get a sniff at what Pardew achieved but, no, we were ****ing dire to watch honestly and even lucky to achieve midtable. Looking back I think of myself as a pissing idiot for being so critical of the fella, we probably wouldn't have been relegated that second time if we kept Pardew.

What Newcastle need to aim for is a young manager, who has some decent ideas and wants to be at a club for a long period of time, the absolute best we can hope for is someone similar to Eddie Howe who can get us playing some decent football and get us competitive. Someone who can sit down with Ashley and Charnley and charm them into giving him more control and give him a chance to build a project at the club.

I'd give Lee Bowyer a shout, Gerrard, anyone who has something new and can breath some ****ing life into this club.

I always wonder to myself what would have happened if Ashley didn't buy the club? Would we be were Sunderland are now? Or would some mental rich fella have bought us and we'd be were City are?
 
Wor Welshie said:
Yes.

I'm very disappointed in the managers we hire mostly, it's ****ing staggering to believe that Alan Pardew is the most successful manager this club has had in years, better than people before the Ashley era and every single one he has hired during it. With Rafa I expected after he signed some lads and got us playing his own way in his third season we would maybe get a sniff at what Pardew achieved but, no, we were ****ing dire to watch honestly and even lucky to achieve midtable. Looking back I think of myself as a pissing idiot for being so critical of the fella, we probably wouldn't have been relegated that second time if we kept Pardew.

What Newcastle need to aim for is a young manager, who has some decent ideas and wants to be at a club for a long period of time, the absolute best we can hope for is someone similar to Eddie Howe who can get us playing some decent football and get us competitive. Someone who can sit down with Ashley and Charnley and charm them into giving him more control and give him a chance to build a project at the club.

I'd give Lee Bowyer a shout, Gerrard, anyone who has something new and can breath some ****ing life into this club.

I always wonder to myself what would have happened if Ashley didn't buy the club? Would we be were Sunderland are now? Or would some mental rich fella have bought us and we'd be were City are?
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god knows but where we are is a dreadful place ! we could give the job to god and he would fail under our owner and in the hell hole this clubs become .. yes we might scrape though for another year or two, but mush worse will be upon us soon and by then god knows how many other clubs will have progressed well above is in every area and molecule within their clubs

I really am convinced .

sorry I really am I'm just one of those arseholes that says what he sees and not what he likes to think
 
Steve Bruce said:
god knows but where we are is a dreadful place ! we could give the job to god and he would fail under our owner and in the hell hole this clubs become .. yes we might scrape though for another year or two, but mush worse will be upon us soon and by then god knows how many other clubs will have progressed well above is in every area and molecule within their clubs
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One thing I've tried to look at, and do take pride in this club for is this, look at the 08/09 season and the teams who were there when we were relegated.

Portsmouth gone, Bolton, Boro, Mackems, Stoke, Hull, Fulham, Wigan, Blackburn.

Newcastle United, St James' Park and it's fans are still in the premier league, still giving people games, and still fighting despite one of the worst businessmen in Britain owning them. We support Newcastle because it's a special club, and I believe we are survivors.
 
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Wor Welshie said:
One thing I've tried to look at, and do take pride in this club for is this, look at the 08/09 season and the teams who were there when we were relegated.

Portsmouth gone, Bolton, Boro, Mackems, Stoke, Hull, Fulham, Wigan, Blackburn.

Newcastle United, St James' Park and it's fans are still in the premier league, still giving people games, and still fighting despite one of the worst businessmen in Britain owning them. We support Newcastle because it's a special club, and I believe we are survivors.
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yes that's like a weird type of medicine that and it actually worked for about 6 seconds and then I thought to myself

"can't be long until it's us"
 
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Dread to say it but if we beat Southampton, we'd probably only need 6 more wins to guarantee staying up with 60% of the season remaining.
More optimistically, Bruce has done a really good job so far. Let's hope it continues and doesn't fizzle out - as we all know that the negativity will be overwhelming if we go on a bad run. Saint-Max may have questionable finishing product but his charisma and stardust has had a huge part to play in our good start.
 
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