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General Election 2019

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General Election 2019

  1. Labour

    12 vote(s)
    36.4%
  2. Tory

    9 vote(s)
    27.3%
  3. Lib. Dem

    6 vote(s)
    18.2%
  4. Green Party

    1 vote(s)
    3.0%
  5. Brexit Party

    2 vote(s)
    6.1%
  6. SNP

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Plaid Cymru

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. None of the above

    2 vote(s)
    6.1%
  9. My legs because they support me

    1 vote(s)
    3.0%
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  1. superhorns

    superhorns Well-Known Member

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    Boris is by far the most trusted on Brexit.

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    Shows how unreliable this post is.

    If Boris was totally honest he would already be dead in a ditch <whistle>
     
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    Yes it is supposed to be a General Election, not just about Brexit, but it will be hijacked into the single issue. Why for example when 8.7 million people in the UK have housing problems of one sort or another did the 2015 Tory manifesto promise £2 billion to build lots of starter homes, yet not one has been built, and the money is no longer available? Or why is the Trussel Trust reporting that where universal credit has been brought in the demand for food parcels has grown at an alarming rate.
     
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  4. colognehornet

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    This shows us nothing more than that the British are a nation of grumblers ! Under Bojo they have a hardish Brexit, with a harder one still possible. With Farage they have a 'slam the door' hard Brexit or nothing. With the Lib Dems they have no Brexit. With Corbyn they have a choice between a soft Brexit (which protects jobs) and a second refererendum. So the question must be raised - if they are dissatisfied with all of these what the ++++ do they want ? Fortunately I don't believe these types of polls.
     
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    I'm sure the polls accurately reflect the views of the population at the moment. Corbyn's 'sit on the fence' policy has failed miserably.
     
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    I strayed onto the Torygraph yesterday by chance, and reading some of the comments on there showed just how split the readers actually are between the Tories and Brexit Ltd. It clearly shows that what is Brexit for one reader, is a sell out to another, which brings you back to the the statement that there was nothing defined sufficiently about what it entailed at the time of the referendum.
     
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  7. Toby

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    So a poll conducted nearly a month ago, of 1074 people, published in your favourite comic, is proof of what exactly?
     
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    Yes, 54% remain v 46% leave.
     
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    When the Scots had their independence referendum the SNP produced a 600 page document showing their agenda and plans for a post independence Scotland. I still cannot believe that this was not required for the Brexit one.
     
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    All done in SH's local in Berkhamstead !
     
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    After the 2017 election where the polls showed a large majority for the Tories right up to the last days before it took place, you have to wonder where they get their results from. The latest poll by ICM taken since the election was called shows a narrowing of the lead, only 7% now.
     
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    A lot of these polls are commissioned to give the result they want, it's far from impartial.

    The anti-Corbyn lies and smears, the most disgusting I've ever seen aimed at anyone since I've followed the news, have an effect for sure. My only hope is that there are enough reasonable people in this country to see this Government for what they are, incompetent chancers in it to enrich themselves and cause irreparable damage to this country in the process.

    Will see ever see the report commisioned about the Brexit vote? The one May withheld because it would cause 'further divisions'?

    Will we ever see the Brexit impact papers?

    Will we ever see the Russia collusion papers?

    The hypocrisy of the right is baffling, if Labour had done a fraction of what they have the papers would be calling for blood.
     
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    The real polls (elections) have made the Tories the most popular political party in the UK for the last 10 years, the odds are on this trend continuing for another 5 years. Perhaps the Tories are just more in tune with the public.
     
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    I think that many people think that it is the Tories who got us into this mess and they should see it through to the end SH. My suspicion is that the payback for this will come later once Brexit is decided.
     
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    More like a complete lack of confidence for any alternative to run the country.
     
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  19. Toby

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    Zzzzzzzz

    Try debating for once rather than the usual soundbites.

    Maybe the Russia report the Tories are hiding mentions bots on random football forums spouting constant right-wing inanities <laugh>
     
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    The last real poll taken in 2017 showed that the public didn't trust the Tories enough to give them a majority. You can argue why and talk numbers, but under the first past the post electoral system they lost the slim majority they held. It is also worth remembering that out of your ten years another five only took place as they were propped up by the LibDems.
     
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