General Election 2019

316,264 people have registered to vote in the last two days. 65% were from people under 35 and 4% were from those over 65. This is similar to the rush just before the 2017 election which saw Theresa May lose her majority.

 

From the same Guardian article you missed the bit about 9.4 million people still missing from the electoral roll. The largest group disillusioned with Corbyn since the last election has been amongst the young, he is a busted flush.

The Labour Party should have ditched Corbyn months ago to stand any chance of avoiding a consecutive fourth defeat. The problem is there is such a dearth of talent in the narrow pool of extreme left wing candidates acceptable to Momentum. The majority of the public cannot even name most of the former shadow cabinet.

This election could take a significant step towards the disintegration of the Labour Party as we have known it for past decades. The LibDems smell blood like vultures picking at a carcass. They have a clear defined message on Brexit which Labour does not. The only problem for the LibDems is what do the public think they stand for after Brexit. Once Brexit has been achieved they, like the Brexit Party, become dispensable due to lack of direction or intensity.

 

Your figures may well be correct but we have established, under your logic, that the Conservative led UK is one of the most poor friendly governments in Europe.

 

Well said SH!

 

We have discussed recently how people are getting their news, noting that people do not buy newspapers as they used to, and do not watch TV news as it does not entertain. Yesterday was a good example of what is influencing the younger who are living with the mobile phone implant. On social media there was some video of Johnson leaving Addenbrooks hospital in Cambridge with lots of booing and jeering from the staff. It was clear that his minders were trying to get him out the door as fast as possible. There was then a two minute interview with a junior doctor who showed why he couldn't be believed. Within minutes this video went viral, 50,000 had seen it within an hour. This is where influence lies now with the young. My grandson will have seen it, and he will have the vote for the first time. If he needed any confirmation of what is happening that will have sealed it for him.

 

There could have equally been another doctor filmed praising the PM for injecting large new amounts of finance into the NHS.
I think, and hope, most of the young are not so gullible to believe such obvious electioneering propaganda. You will probably find the booing was from the Momentum rent a mob given the tip off of his visit.

Thankfully in the real world the PM is vastly more popular and trusted with the NHS than the opposition leader.

 

So far the debate has been tolerant, long may it be so.
I will vote either Tory or Brexit to ensure we exit the EU as soon as possible. How I vote depends on who stands in my constituency and has the best chance of getting the seat.
I would rather stay in the EU than live in a country with Corbyn as PM, he and his cronies will take us back to the dark ages.
The Lib Dems blatant disregard for the referendum result makes me wonder why they are called Liberal Democrats?
The SNP is non other than another left wing momentum type outfit who pursue similar policies as well as their desire to make Scotland independent thus relegating it to 3rd world status overnight.
Where is the Monster Raving Loonie party in the poll?
Hope that wasn't too intolerant?

 

This latest Survation poll makes grim reading for the opposition parties.

 

Just about sums it up nicely, even I would rather stay in the EU than have a Marxist Momentum UK government, cough cough.!!

 

I doubt that such video often comes your way more than it does mine, but there was absolutely no doubt that it was hospital staff inside the building giving him grief. I wouldn't dare to post some of what my daughter says about him and the way this government has broken promise after promise about running the NHS.

 

Is there a poll out there that is exclusively for those <35 Year old's alongside numbers of what % of the electorate they make up?
seems to me that we might be able to gain some insight into the effect of the swell of <35's will have on the overall poll

 

I have two daughters that separately deal with the NHS at a very high level and there is still far too many examples of waste and restrictive practices in the NHS. Simply just throwing money at the problem is not the answer although the recent record investment into the NHS is most welcome.

 

I forgot the Monster Raving Loony party Scully - I did actually try to add a couple including the Judaien Peoples Popular Front but it didn't work. Apparently I can only change the title of threads.

 

Farage says Johnson is like a used-car salesman. The car may look fine from the outside. But it isn’t. This is not real Brexit, he says.
Farage says what Johnson is planning is “not Brexit”.
He says Brexiters will be appalled when they realise exactly what Johnson is planning.
He suggests, if MPs are willing to renounce Boris Johnson’s deal, his party will stand aside.
He says if the UK adopted that plan, it would trigger a campaign to rejoin the EU. And he says that campaign would succeed.

So which of the two do you believe? Is it a great new deal, even if it is the 18 month old one brought back to life, or isn't it?

 

Sensible pragmatic Brexiteers realise this is the best option to actually leave this dreadful organisation a.s.a.p. The EU are terrified of the UK actually making a success of rejecting the EU's insipid march towards a federal state. Much of the Brexit Party's support has already morphed back towards the Conservatives giving them such a commanding lead in the polls.

 

So Johnson is not like a used car salesman. Bang goes that Knighthood now? You do realise that Brexit has done more for the EU than they could possibly have hoped for. With the looney right on this side of the Channel now seeing what happens when you devise a false ideology, they are backing very quickly away from it. To go back to the deal negotiated 18 months ago and claim it as new is quite laughable. Why didn't you say it was sensible and pragmatic then?

 

The backstop, which locked us into the EU, has been removed. This is a renegotiated deal not May's deal. May's remainer soppy negotiators did the UK's interests real harm, this is a pragmatic way of leaving then negotiating a trade deal by those that actually believe Brexit was an excellent choice by the British public.

The EU still has the same tensions within, poverty, unemployment, further erosion of national rights, uncontrolled immigration, rising support of the far right in many nation states. It will also be increasingly uncompetitive against an unshackled UK. If Turkey pushes 2 million more immigrants into the EU, the squabbling will only intensify.

 

This does depend on accepting Frenchie's dodgy logic on vat rates and poverty.

 

What the May proposal had going for it was that it didn't throw her friends in the DUP into the ditch. The backstop was never going to be needed after all the alternative arrangements were brought in, but of course they never existed. That is why the right wing nutters were against her proposals. Seemingly now they have accepted that as fact, and to save face have been prepared to say this is not what we want, but the best we can do. Pragmatic, no. Face saving, yes. Signs of looking after the interests of your friends. They do not care anymore.